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Belly,

The problem with the impeachment process is that it has been orchestrated in such a partisan manner that any pretense of fair /due process has vanished. That the support for the impeachment in the public also seems to be evaporating indicates the danger for democrats in pursuing this vendetta.

"Emerson polling showed support for impeachment flipped since October from 48 per cent support with 44 per cent opposing to now 45 per cent opposed and 43 per cent in support. Among key independents, the switch was even more pronounced. In October, 48 per cent supported impeaching Trump, with 39 per cent opposed. Now, 49 per cent of independents oppose impeachment, while only 34 per cent support it.

A new Marquette University Law School poll found 40 per cent of registered voters in the swing state of Wisconsin thought Trump should be impeached and removed from office, while 53 per cent did not think so. Another 6 per cent weren’t sure.

A new Gallup poll shows Trump’s approval has ticked up two points since the impeachment drama began, with 50 per cent of Americans opposed to it and 48 per cent in support. Henry Olsen notes that Gallup polls all adults, not just registered voters, meaning a poll of registered voters would have Trump’s job approval even higher and impeachment opposed by closer to a 52-46 margin."
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 25 November 2019 9:06:35 AM
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Shadow Minister the polls I read [near daily] in fact say 49 percent agree with the impeachment proceedings but not removing Trump
Too polling I see says Trump has lost 4 percent, so someone is wrong
Fake news gets a run again?
The proceedings are run as per the system requires and it is my view have been run ok
Just read yet another bombastic pro Trump comment, but it was swamped with replies saying the poster is part of the problem
Again only the wrong candidate can stop Democrats removing Trump, and that looks more likely everyday
Strange place America
Posted by Belly, Monday, 25 November 2019 10:23:23 AM
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Belly,

Read the latest articles:

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/united-states/what-impeachment-inquiry-americas-made-up-its-mind-on-trump-polls-suggest
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/impeachment-not-affects-trumps-approval-rate-poll/1652170
https://www.theblaze.com/news/after-impeachment-hearings-new-polls-show-democrats-made-severe-miscalculation-with-2020-implications

"WASHINGTON - The ongoing impeachment inquiry into US President Donald Trump has done little to change the American public's views of him and may even have alienated some swing voters, according to new polling.

Early support for impeaching Mr Trump has faded despite days of sobering testimony from non-partisan veteran public servants on an alleged campaign to pressure Ukraine to open an investigation damaging to his political rival Joe Biden, suggesting that America has made up its mind on the President.

An Emerson National poll conducted from Nov 17 to 20 - after four days of public hearings - found that 43 per cent support impeachment, down from the 48 per cent who supported impeachment in October.

The survey found that the biggest swing came from independent voters. Half of them - 49 per cent - now oppose impeachment, up from the 34 percent who opposed impeachment in October.

The survey found that most voters had been paying attention to the impeachment inquiry, with the hearings being watched or followed by 69 per cent of people.

The Emerson poll suggests the impeachment inquiry may have bolstered Mr Trump's position, with his approval rating rising to 48 per cent this month from 43 per cent last month.

Republican voters are also closing ranks around Mr Trump, with 93 per cent preferring him as the Republican candidate for the 2020 presidential election over his primary challengers Bill Weld and Joe Walsh.

"The impeachment at this point isn't having any effect because it's not moving independents or Republicans against Trump," said Fordham University political scientist Monika McDermott at a briefing for reporters, referring to the polling results.

"If something this major can't shake the core of support that he has, then I don't see anything really able to do that. So I don't see impeachment as really having any kind of lasting impact on the elections because it's not shaking his core of support," she added."
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 25 November 2019 11:31:23 AM
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Shadow Minister take the S off to make your links work
And yes as we learned here polling is no longer reliable, but my polls gave different results and they are in the same time as yours
We [you and I at least]knew the senate was never ever going to convict him
That remains true
But he has held his base but look at recent elections, lost past support in some states
My bet is he will not be there by this month next year
Face it he verges on acts that could see him, post a second term, be charged with crimes
He may well be looking at doing a deal, leaving, and saying the deep state forced him out
Or, if he goes, Republicans in small but significant numbers, may dump on him ,the self preservation syndrome at work
Sadly I see a badly damaged America, and because of that a weakened western world China and Russia to benefit
Posted by Belly, Monday, 25 November 2019 2:54:46 PM
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Shadow Minister,

When Belly wrote,<<Shadow Minister take the S off to make your links work>> this meant take the 's' off https so your URL reads: http://www.straitstimes.com/world/united-states/what-impeachment-inquiry-americas-made-up-its-mind-on-trump-polls-suggest

Hope that helps.
Posted by OzSpen, Monday, 25 November 2019 6:29:10 PM
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Belly,

This sums it up:

https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/2dd615b1dd4fe9712e414f9bf1f57695?width=1024

With a Republican run senate trial he is likely to be exonerated, as far as next year's election, his success or failure will depend on who the democrats select, and so far the talent pool is shallow.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 3:57:30 AM
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