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BUDJ BIM an Indigenous eel trap site added to World Heritage List!

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Foxy,

So the scientific method is now right-wing ? Expecting evidence is right-wing ?

So conversely, believing without question is left-wing ? Taking the word of 'authorities' is left-wing ?

Now we're getting somewhere :)

Wait long enough and everything turns into its opposite, I think Marx said something like that.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Friday, 26 July 2019 5:19:48 PM
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Joe,

You're arguing with yourself again!
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 26 July 2019 6:18:47 PM
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Foxy, OK I'll accept your submission if you can provide us with something conclusive telling us that they are right wing media.
If they are so be it.
I don't have problem with that.
No one can deny the truth.
Don't worry I won't get upset if you can show me you're right.
Posted by ALTRAV, Friday, 26 July 2019 8:58:29 PM
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Great comment Foxy;

Posted by Foxy, Friday, 26 July 2019 2:32:35 PM

Joe, do you feel threatened by Bruce Pascoe's 'Dark Emu'? I don't believe it reflects badly on your website. The 15,000 pages of material you have laboriously transcribed should never be viewed as wasted, it present the established, if somewhat biased white perception of the First Australians. Of course Pascoe challenges that blinked view, and rightly so. As we learned from the old established material, we can also learn from new informed material.

Anyone who could type all those pages of official material, could easily knock over a couple of hundred pages of a book. Give it a go Joe.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 26 July 2019 11:02:57 PM
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Hi Paul,

Thanks but I don't know what you're going on about. As some of us here have tried to point out, there simply is no basis to what your Dream Boy is making his money on. So far, what has been established ?

That what Aboriginal people were supposed to be farming (ie.without known implements) was kangaroo grass and yam daisies. And as it happens, there were vast areas of those wild plants all around the place. So some of us have tried to get through to you and others: why the hell cultivate (i.e. farm, like in NZ) the soil in order to grow what is already growing every bloody where ?!

And why the denigration of hunting and gathering ? What's the point, since all of us, all of our distant ancestors (some not so distant: my Scottish and Irish (and Welsh) ancestors were probably still hunters and gatherers only a few hundred years ago) were foragers, hunters (usually male) and gatherers (usually female) ? Doesn't it cross anybody's mind that it takes incredible ingenuity to survive by foraging ? In such a harsh continent, on the whole, as Australia ? Especially South Australia ? Or anywhere, actually ?

For god's sake, some of you, try to have a look at Peter Bellwood's "First Farmers", the authoritative text on the subject of how agriculture emerged out of - and as an unimaginable innovation (or set of innovations, mostly, I suspect, from the genius of women) from - foraging - and in only a handful of places (perhaps four or five) in the entire world ? I hope to Christ that some of you chase it up on Google Scholar if only to satisfy your curiosity. It's a fantastic story, and we're all only a few thousand years from its initiation. Thanks, I believe, mainly to women. Who were probably pissed off with endlessly collecting kangaroo grass-seed every f*c*ing day, and then spending hours grinding it. As well as lugging kids around. And those damn heavy grind-stones.

Imbecilic.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Friday, 26 July 2019 11:52:16 PM
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Loudmouth, I am bewildered at the stubbornness of some.
You submit logical, factual, and truthfull material or information, with confirmations, and yet you are still sidelined.
I wish these people could be brought to bear the truth about this a boraginal thing.
It is so frustrating when dealing with closed minded people.
Remember the saying a famous person once uttered;
"The problem with closed minded people, is their mouths are always open".
So what chance do we open minded people have if we keep our mouths shut?
We must match them, a right word for their wrong word, truth for lie.
It is therefore, most imperative that we must always speak up and deny these closed minded people the opportunity to speak lies and mis-information.
It is incumbent upon us to keep upholding the truth as if to hold a cross to Satan.
Posted by ALTRAV, Saturday, 27 July 2019 12:36:27 AM
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