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Religion - Is it finally time to know what you believe is probably wrong?

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Hi Not..now..soon,

I have never said that God doesn't exist BUT I know that the Bible is a load of rubbish.

To believe that the Bible is God's word is simply immoral and a complete insult to God if you believe in God!

By believing the lies in the bible you are saying-

God will kill anyone at any time for whatever reason. eg. Noah's flood that never happened!

God will kill innocent babies, innocent children and innocent babes still in the womb for any reason. Noah's flood again!

That God is so unjust that he will kill all the firstborn of a nation just because the King of that nation defies him. The Passover!

I'll repeat it for you

Do you really believe GOD condoned of and sometimes committed infanticide, rape, murder, animal and human sacrifice, ethnic cleansing, war crimes, torture, incest, Mosaic Law - (Sharia), stoning, slavery oppression of women and other atrocities?

Every version of the Bible says GOD did!

Loudmouth... You are more a windbag than a loudmouth...lol

I am waiting for something useful to come from your typing fingers. I always try to listen to people like you BUT alas I can only listen to people like you for so long and then I just have to laugh at you... lmao

If you don't like the thread leave it... I am miles in front of any thinking you may have on the subject.

Is Mise... Do you really think that I would only use one version? I go back to as close to the original ancient Hebrew texts or Greek texts that I can... Then I check what is said between versions to see who most accurately represents what is being said.

Of course you probably realise that most translations are written by believers for believers except the believers never read them...lmao

The simple flaw that believers have is that they have been told it is God's word and they simply believe it. Most have never even read it. Then the preachers selectively choose the non-controversial passages and brainwash people with those!

More to follow..
Posted by Opinionated2, Friday, 1 December 2017 6:29:43 PM
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Josephus you are floundering in the dark now...Do you have a torch?

Do not bear false witness! Remember that teaching in the over forty times you have read every verse in every English version of every Bible?...lmao

You have zero credibility....

So did you guys see what Moses did with the do not bear false witness verse in the 10 commandments... He failed just like Josephus...lol

The actual commandment says Exodus 20:16 You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

Moses must have been a lawyer because he soon found a loophole in that commandment. Well he wrote it so of course he would.

If God had written it, surely he would have written "Thou shalt not bear false witness against anybody...

Now look at Moses teach exactly that!

Deuteronomy 21:18-21 If a man have a STUBBORN AND REBELLIOUS SON, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:

Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;

And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; HE IS A GLUTTON, AND A DRUNKARD.

And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

OOPS! Moses just ordered people to lie about their son and add HE IS A GLUTTON, AND A DRUNKARD. to the charges thus bearing false witness!

The outcome is fine... lying to get someone stoned to death must seem very reasonable to you believers...lmao

Yep! Moses was a great guy! Oh you missed that too... Gee shock horror!

Why don't you invite all your other Bible believing friends to join in this thread... The more I defeat the merrier...lmao
Posted by Opinionated2, Friday, 1 December 2017 8:04:13 PM
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"Nobody believes in being [burning?] bushes "

The Israelis and the Egyptians did and both found oil in the historic area.

https://books.google.com.au/books?id=IpyPCwAAQBAJ&pg=PT184&lpg=PT184&dq=biblical+burningbush+leads+to+oil+find&source=bl&ots=l27NUCozZ7&sig=bS0gRedWz1yUTbi96oEp_h2q7dM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiZ262SzOjXAhXDk5QKHd2kC3wQ6AEISjAF#v=onepage&q=biblical%20burningbush%20leads%20to%20oil%20find&f=false

for a glimpse.
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 1 December 2017 8:31:41 PM
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Here's a bit about the flood.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/evidence-suggests-biblical-great-flood-noahs-time-happened/story?id=17884533
Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 1 December 2017 8:46:24 PM
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'I have never said that God doesn't exist BUT I know that the Bible is a load of rubbish.'

yep like many op2, you do believe but wave your puny fist and tiny intellect towards your Creator. Your blockage is purely moral not your incapability to reason.
Posted by runner, Friday, 1 December 2017 9:06:13 PM
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So let's list who the Bible says it is OK for people to kill even though one of the commandments says... Thou shalt not murder!

Remember Mosaic law is Sharia also.

So who does MOSES allege GOD is happy with you believers killing?

Death to Furtune Tellers Leviticus 20:27 A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood (shall be) upon them.

Killing a Man – What about a woman? Exodus 21:12 He that smiteth a man, so that he die, shall be surely put to death.

Cursing a parent Leviticus 20:9 For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood (shall be) upon him.

Not listening to a priest Deuteronomy 17:12 And the man that will do presumptuously, and will not hearken unto the priest that standeth to minister there before the LORD thy God, or unto the judge, even that man shall die: and thou shalt put away the evil from Israel.

Gee no wonder priests & clergy have been able to get away with so many crimes in the past. Does GOD really protect them with death to anyone who won't listen to one?

Following another religion Exodus 22:20 He that sacrificeth unto (any) god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed.

Hang on… GOD allows other religions – You just can’t sacrifice to other GODs!

Adultery Leviticus 20:10 And the man that committeth adultery with [another] man's wife, [even he] that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

BUT hang on JESUS made this law even tougher! Ever looked lustfully on a woman who wasn't your wife?

Jesus said Matthew 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

More coming....
Posted by Opinionated2, Friday, 1 December 2017 10:35:49 PM
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