Loudmouth...Where do you find the time to post on here when you should be away delving into the lessons of fairytales for the greater good of humanity...lmao

Have you found the hidden meaning in Little Red Riding Hood yet?...lol Can you work on Mary Had a Little Lamb next?...lmao

Hopefully people print up what I show them for future reference. But at least they will have some exact Biblical references to refer to for their better understanding.

Why as an Atheist are you so keen on disrupting this thread? What's in it for you? Your analyses are infantile and pathetic...Are you a closet believer?...lmao

There seems to be a Hole in Your Bucket Dear Liza Dear Liza...lmao

Logic and lateral thinking sure aren't skills you posses. NNS has run away with his tale between his legs because the Bible proves him wrong continually...but secretly he is still reading....BOO! NNS I see you!...lmao

The penny hasn't dropped with you guys yet...So Loudmouth - How do you undo 1000's of years of lies through indoctrination? Oh your theory is to not discuss the source document relating to that indoctrination...lmao Can you get any sillier than that?

You were wrong about literalism in Churches and amongst believers and you are wrong still.

To prove your point can you trace a Church that doesn't preach the flood or the Passover? Of course you can't because you are a windbag!

Keep studying your hidden meanings in myths and fairytales and the rest of us will keep analysing why people believe those myths, lies and fairytales as fact when they are obviously untrue.

If you have learnt one thing here I hope it is that you can't study anything properly withoutgoing back to the source document...That will get you out of kindergarten and into Preps...lmao

Happy New Year!

So I guess this thread has simply proven that all of the Abrahamic religions are anti-God!

It also proves that Christians don't follow Jesus and simply shoul;dn't call themselves Christian for one moment!

How can they claim to follow Jesus when they do exactly the opposite continually.

37,000,000 churches built when Jesus didn't build 1 when he was on Earth. I wonder how much those churches cost?

33,000 sects created in Jesus' name when he left only one group in his name. The Pharisees that you all follow and are sure destroyed his religion.

The anti-women discriminatory ways against women were continued into current times by the preaching of the lies taught by the Pharisee Paul.

The false teachings against God that you all hold as true sure suggests that you won't be saved no matter how hard you beg through prayer. Your arrogance is astounding!

The Christians have all coveted land, stolen land and killed natives in that process and yet they still claim to follow God...

We are all living on stolen land...Your churches are all built on stolen land...The wealth of the churches have been collected by steeling from the poor simple minded believers like you.

Jesus said ... Keep the commandments and you guys don't hardly keep any.

If judgement day were to come would you pass the test?

So again I ask the Christians here the question they never answer...

Why do you so earnestly believe the lies against God when they are so obviously untrue?

Hang your heads in shame!

Self-Op2,

33,000 sects in Jesus's name: all religions seem to throw up schisms and sects - it may be quite a necessary response to the need to interpret vague teachings. Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism have all done it: I'm told that there are 44 million gods in Hinduism: imagine the Op2-type arguments going on in India at any one time. .

Sectarianism may be inevitable in any religion. Not being a believer, it's a matter only of slight interest to me, except to defend honest sectarians in their futile struggle to understand their own inherited ideas.

"The Pharisees that you all follow ...." Probably very few OLO posters follow the Pharisees, even if they knew what on earth you meant. I think AJ would call that the Dead Horse Fallacy.

Not "being saved" doesn't hold out any fears for many of us, whatever it means: we're born, we live, we do our best, we die; nothing afterwards, no hell and no heaven. The End.

I'm still trying to identify your target population. It seems to be a very small sect who worship Moses and Paul above all other mythical people. I feel as if I've intruded into a passionate, private argument (which nevertheless is being broadcast over loudspeakers), for which I apologise. None of my business.

Joe

Loudmouth...I am simply presenting the facts for people to see...

If they can't see that....they are simply blind fools.

If? Jesus left the one true religion and he was truly the Son of God then it is the absolute fault of the people who would claim to believe and follow Jesus for the 33,000 sects. Afterall they think that their sect is correct but have never looked at the history in relation to what Jesus taught.

History proves them wrong immediately!

I can't help that they have been blinded by a lack of an inquiring mind in themselves and manipulated by their chosen Pharisaical group for money.

All I can do is put the facts out there for them to see..I don't expect comprehension skills in them...lol

As you are an Atheist it seems weird that you are an apologist for false teachings, lies, and indoctrination. You are so busy looking for the non-controversial ground that you have fallen into the trap of appeasement even when the facts are in front of you.

My audience is not limited like you think...There could be many people reading these points, printing up my comments and then testing them without your knowledge. Many people read these sites without posting!

Most of these so called followers won't have even realised that the religion that Jesus left was sabotaged almost beyond recognition and yet they still claim to follow. They won't have known that much of what they follow is exactly the opposite to what Jesus taught and that they have been hoodwinked into Paganism...lmao

FFS...They love Jesus so much that they celebrate his birthday on the wrong day, in the wrong month and the wrong year. That is why I now celebrate all Christian birthdays on the 25th June 1940 so that the penny might eventually drop as to what they are doing.

It won't...because they are simple, indoctrinated souls that simply refuse to use their brains.

You can live in non-factual appeasement land if you like but I prefer to study the facts and present the facts...It's the difference between you and me!

Hi Op2,

I apologise for being " .... an apologist for false teachings, lies, and indoctrination ....", my only defence being that I don't have a clue what you mean. Apologists usually are under-cover advocates, but I can't grasp what I may have been advocating.

Worship of Moses and Paul ? No, I don't think they necessarily existed. Anyway, I've never liked the idea of slavish obedience to any Ten Commandments, especially the one about not coveting one's neighbour's wife. I much prefer Zygmunt Bauman's support for the Adam and Eve myth, the notion of 'Bugger it, we'll do what we like, and take the consequences.' Free will versus blind obedience.

Sucking up to Pharisees ? I can't recall ever having met one. What do they call themselves these days ? Do they wear funny hats ? And I've never been called an appeaser before: the opposite maybe.

About anybody's birthday a couple of thousand years ago: today, we take out calendar for granted, but back then, it wasn't like it is now, twelve months, thirty or thirty one days per month, leap years, etc. In the purported days of the mythical Christ, the Emperor Augustus was just bringing in 'August' as a month (or was that Tiberius or Claudius ?), Roman years were all over the place, with a Bacchanalia of many days of debauchery at the end of each one. [Oh, to be a Roman] And the notion of BC wasn't invented for another five hundred years.

This day or that, even to an atheist, seems incredibly trivial. Who cares ? FSS ? Lmao. Rofl.

Joe

Loudmouth...I can tell you don't know what I mean. what this thread is about or why you are so out of touch with your own position...

This thread is entirely about the truth and showing the lies of the Bible in particular to people who believe the Bible is fact. It is called educating the masses!

That is why I have told the Christians here that they celebrate Jesus' birthday on the wrong day, in the wrong month and for the wrong year. They won't know that!

It is a simple fact!

That is why I teach them that we stole the land from the aborigine and that their Churches are built on stolen land and therefore against the 10 commandments because it is a simple fact.

All your arguments are irrelevant. The facts speak for themselves! I don't care whether or not you agree with the commandments...Christians say they do and yet break them continually.

They say they follow Jesus and don't...That is a fact!

They believe and teach, (I don't), GOD condoned of and sometimes committed the most abominable crimes against humanity...That is a fact! They teach it in the Churches.

Most of these blind indoctrinated souls simply haven't got a clue that their religion is not Christianity...That is a fact!

Whether or not you believe in Moses even living is irrelevant...Most of the Abrahamic religious people do...To most of the 3.4 billion in those religions Moses is a fact!

I am presenting the facts so that those with a brain might learn something...To believers Atheists like you are irrelevant.

To get through their years of indoctrination I choose to show them facts from their source books contained the Bible...

Every Christian believes lies and spreads lies based on the Bible breaking their own books views on lies and liars and they don't get it.

So you have a choice... Your method of ignoring facts or my method of showing the facts...

This is simple stuff...I'm sorry it is too complicated for you to understand