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Religion - Is it finally time to know what you believe is probably wrong?

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With so many people voting no in the same sex marriage referendum due to their religiously based objections shouldn't we see what the religious books really say?

Simply put if you voted No based on the false teachings of Moses you are wrong!

Moses states that God hates homosexuality in two verses but Moses simply can't be trusted whatsoever!

Moses had a simple way to get people to do his bidding... Put "the Lord said" in front of everything and the people will believe you..

This is even true today - you all still believe Moses!

If you actually study your Bibles correctly you will see this in plain site.

Modern Bible study suggests that there were 4 writers of the first 5 books of the Bible - not one as most believers think. This is due to the fact that their are 4 fairly distinct writing styles...

But let's stick to the concept of Moses wrote them.

Moses made up the flood story - You believe it!

Moses made up the Passover story and you believe it!

Moses made up the plague stories... And you believe it! Why?

In the flood according to your Bibles God killed every living person except Noah and his family in a flood that supposedly covered the entire planet.

This means that you believe and hold true that God killed EVERY INNOCENT BABY, EVERY INNOCENT CHILD & EVERY INNOCENT BABE IN THE WOMB.

As the flood never happened this means that you believe the most horrid lies against God.

How would you feel if someone told such a horrid lie about you?

Why are you so at ease believing this massive lie against your God?

I am not an Atheist... I just think it is time people actually were told the truth!
Posted by Opinionated2, Wednesday, 29 November 2017 12:05:18 PM
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So what are you saying exactly?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 30 November 2017 9:49:30 AM
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That's a tough question Armchair critic...I am going to show that the Bible is a load of rubbish..lol

My studies were in the Christian religion and I was astounded at how wrong everyone is on the topic. They claim the Bible is God's word but almost none have studied it properly or even realise what it says.

There is a simple reason for this... Believers are lazy! Their faiths are based on rubbish and they simply don't get it!

So this thread will focus more on the Christian religion but it covers all the Abrahamic religions.

One of the problems with the Christian religion is that it really isn't Christian... It's Paulian... Paul is quoted more often than Jesus. Do the test for yourselves... See how often Paul is quoted in church services and see how often Jesus is quoted.

So let's take a quick look at Paul.

Paul was a Pharisee! Jesus couldn't stand Pharisee. Paul persecuted Christians and then suddenly infiltrated the Christians by lying his way in.

So how do we know this... Paul says it himself!

Acts 23:6 “But when Paul perceived that the one part were Sadducees, and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, Men and brethren, I AM A PHARISEE, THE SON OF A PHARISEE: of the hope and resurrection of the dead I am called in question.”

Jesus called Pharisses snakes and hypocrites... but that doesn't bother the churches...lol They quote Paul ad nausium!

Here is what Jesus said about Pharisees in Matthew 23 - https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/mat/23/1/s_952001

Now here is a problem for Catholics - Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

And here is a problem for the old Christian slave owners...

Matthew 23:10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

People who call themselves Christian don't follow Jesus... They follow Paul!

So let's see how Paul infiltrated the Christians and corrupted Jesus' teachings...

... Cont
Posted by Opinionated2, Thursday, 30 November 2017 10:27:02 AM
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Matthew 23 shows Jesus was not a fan of the Pharisees.

Notice in my previous post Paul doesn't say..."I WAS a Pharisee but says.."I AM A PHARISEE".

Paul oppressed women, lied, stole, and falsified most things to suit his mission. He only mentions Jesus about 11 times.

So let's see how Paul manipulates bringing Pharisaical rulings to corrupt.

1 Corinthians 14:34-35 “Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.

And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.”

WHERE DID JESUS PREACH THIS? I know Paul is wrong, but do believers?

But there is more -

1 Timothy 2:11-14 “Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.”

Paul was just a man BUT also a Pharisee! And yet he continued the discrimination against women for a further 2000 years and beyond! Is discriminating against 50% of the population, (in this case ALL women) a crime against humanity?

His statement about the transgression proves he is a liar... He changes it to suit himself. God told Adam not to eat of the tree...not Eve. Eve wasn't even created then.

Romans 5:12-15 Wherefore, as BY ONE MAN (ADAM) sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

(For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of ADAM'S TRANSGRESSION, who is the figure of him that was to come.

See the Pharisaical transgression mischief? It's in plain sight!
Posted by Opinionated2, Thursday, 30 November 2017 10:48:00 AM
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But there is more -

1 Timothy 2:11-14 “Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence."

Sounds reasonable to me.
Posted by Is Mise, Thursday, 30 November 2017 11:09:41 AM
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Just to prove what I say is true...

Genesis 2:16-17 And the LORD God COMMANDED THE MAN, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof THOU SHALT SURELY DIE.

Genesis 2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

So it was Adam who was ordered by God not to eat the fruit...

How do women believers accept all the oppression caused by Paul and the religions when it flies totally in the face of Jesus' teachings?

Where did Jesus teach this?

1 Corinthians 11:6 For if a woman is not covered, LET HER BE SHORN. But if it is shameful for a woman to be shorn or shaved, let her be covered.

Sorry ladies all you that don't cover your heads in Church need to be shorn... Paul says so...lmao

Paul makes a freudian slip that believers never notice...

1Corinthians 7:10 But to the married I GIVE INSTRUCTIONS, NOT I, BUT THE LORD, that the wife should not leave her husband

He obviously didn't have an eraser so he accidently left it that really the instructions were from him Oops sorry Jesus...lmao

Now Paul was always into power over people and he lies again

1 Corinthians 14:37 “If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.”

Can a man make a commandment – Answer NO! Paul certainly got a bit full of himself here. He even states you can't be spiritual without believing him! What ROT! But no-one notices... Did you know he wrote these things?

If these are commandments from the Lord as Paul claims men had better buy some shears to get those uncovered heads in Church shorn, hadn't they?..lmao Pharisees were always atrociously hard on women!

Aint Bible analysis fun! More to follow!
Posted by Opinionated2, Thursday, 30 November 2017 11:11:05 AM
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