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Islamic terror in Orlando, a boost to Trump?

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Here's yer problem...

"US car dealer offers free AR-15 assault rifle with every car"

"A New Hampshire car dealer is offering everyone who buys a car a free AR-15 assault rifle, a type of weapon similar to the one used in the Orlando LGBT nightclub massacre.

Mike Hagan owns Hagan’s Motor Pool Auto Repair and Sales in Rochester. He says he’s given away four AR-15s and one 9mm handgun, an option for buyers who don’t want the rifle.

Hagan told NH1-TV that he has partnered with a nearby gun store, which runs the required background checks.

Hagan is a combat veteran who served in Afghanistan. He says the possibility the weapons he’s giving away could be used to kill civilians doesn’t weigh on him.

He hasn’t returned calls seeking information on whether the promotion began before or after Orlando gunman Omar Mateen attacked the Pulse nightclub on Sunday, leaving 49 people dead.

AR-15 style rifles were used by the shooters in the San Bernardino terror attack in December, as well as in the 2012 attacks at a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, and an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut.

Critics call AR-15-style rifles the weapon of choice for terrorists and mass murderers; such guns were targeted by the 1994 federal ban on “assault weapons”, which some Democrats tried and failed to renew in 2013."

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/17/new-hampshire-car-dealer-free-ar15-assault-rifle
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 18 June 2016 11:10:06 AM
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Yep Poirot continues to desperately try to demonise Christianity because she knows her form of secularism is as vile as extreme Islam.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 18 June 2016 11:13:48 AM
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Poirot,

As an apologist for Islam and purveyor of radical feminist factoids (while claiming not to be a feminist), you are shameless with your win at any cost BS.

For the many who care facts,

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/04/opinion/how-many-mass-shootings-are-there-really.html?_r=2
Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 18 June 2016 11:15:26 AM
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//So you have found a 4th tiny anti gay congregation out of > 300 000//

//The Australian National Imams Council, of which Sheik ­Alsuleiman is president, has at least three executive members who believe the only punishment for homosexuality is the death penalty//

Are you prepared to show us the figures on how many Australian muslims don't support capital punishments for homosexuality, or are you worried they might undermine your argument?

//I don't know why you keep bringing up these fringe cults, we all know that in even the most enlightened society that there are fringe dwellers, and pointing out these kooks//

I find it interesting that the existence of queer-hating Christians establishes nothing beyond the existence of queer-hating Christians, while the existence of three queer-hating Australian Muslims is apparently sufficient to extrapolate the views of all Australian Muslims from.

//The vast majority of western society accepts a person irrespective of sexual predilections... the vast majority of muslims born and raised in western countries do not.//

Three is not a vast majority of Australian Muslims, unless there are fewer than six muslims in Australia. If you want to persuade people that most Australian Muslims hate queers you're going to have come up with a few more examples, in the same way that it would take more than handful of queer-hating Christians to establish that most Christians hate queers. Show me the numbers, because an assertion like that without any figures isn't worth much.

//In the words of a Sydney based Imam, you cannot be gay and muslim. No wonder the shooter went nuts.//

I think it's unlikely that the shooter was listening to a Sydney based imam.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Saturday, 18 June 2016 11:45:44 AM
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Lol!...orb,

Just dropped by for your daily blurt of ad hom, eh?

How about you post some evidence disproving that US gun culture is not the problem plaguing that nation with regard to mass shootings?

Same goes for far right wing nuttery - as we've seen in the slaying of Jo Cox in the UK.

The extreme right-wing and its religious apologists pose more threat to "Western values" (as SM puts it) than minority religions and races.

But one assumes you're kinda enamoured by all that guff.
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 18 June 2016 12:01:47 PM
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Poirot,

In response to your link, "Toxic masculinity was just as much to blame for the Orlando shootings as radical Islam" and 'US gun culture being at fault for "mass"(sic) shootings', the next,

Blue Moon. 31 January, 2018 and
Partial Lunar Eclipse. 7 August, 2017 5:23–7:18 pm

Just to say that you are going off a bit early.

'Toxic masculinity' - Grievance Feminism*. What a load of bollocks, self-serving and very nasty. Reprehensible that you would try to excuse and lessen the responsibility of that disgusting, evil murderer and Islam.

*Grievance Feminism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iWa-5zWJgU
Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 18 June 2016 12:40:09 PM
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