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Islamic terror in Orlando, a boost to Trump?

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Australian Imams line up to call for the death penalty for homosexuality:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/imams-line-up-to-condemn-homosexuality/news-story/b1df7829507ae0a60875a5577bd21a43

"Gay and lesbian people should be put to death or otherwise punished under sharia, according to two imams who share leadership positions with Shady Alsuleiman, the controversial sheik invited to a Ramadan dinner at Kirribilli House by Malcolm Turnbull.

The Australian National Imams Council, of which Sheik ­Alsuleiman is president, has at least three executive members who believe the only punishment for homosexuality is the death penalty, according to Islamic law.

Imam Yusuf Peer, the chairman of the Council of Imams Queensland, who is a member of the national peak body, told The Weekend Australian yesterday that it was “not permissible” to be gay and Muslim.

“But we do not have a problem with the people themselves, just the act and ideology,” Imam Peer said. “But this is what the sharia law says and we have to follow that. There is no way around that. When we are talking about gays, we have to be confident (they are gay) and there must be a lot of ­investigating.”

When asked if sharia ­required death, Imam Peer said: “Yes.”
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 18 June 2016 6:59:08 AM
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Thanks for that, SM.

So they're "lining up" are they?

The Murdoch stable is never backward in coming forward to foment discord where it can.

And Shadow Minister is forever billowing in their wake.

Especially when he's started a thread for the same explicit purpose.
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 18 June 2016 8:21:29 AM
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Intolerance, is the problem with most religions, Islam is no exception. The notion that their mythical being, the one they call Allah, is the controlling force behind man, and everything he does. These religious adherents believe that their divine being has bestowed upon them some kind of moral exclusivity where they should, and can, dictate to all what is acceptable behavior and what is not, homosexuality is just one example! The extremest within the Muslim religion, like in Christianity, believe they have been given some kind of authority from their god to punish those that do not conform to their moral code. Extremists believe they have been given the authority to deliver the ultimate punishment to non-adherents. The world needs to see the dangers of religious extremism for what it is.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 18 June 2016 8:47:09 AM
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While we're posting articles on religious outliers, here's a Christian version:

"Tony McCorkell reveals secrets of the wealthy Christian sect Exclusive Brethren"

"Known for its obsession with privacy and its silencing tactics, the Exclusive Brethren has managed to avoid any scrutiny over alleged child sex abuse. Until now"

"Then, in 2006, to the dismay of much of his family, McCorkell went back. The Brethren had come to public notoriety after it spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to influence the 2004 election in favour of conservative Christian PM John Howard. McCorkell, by then a public relations professional, was intrigued, and a little horrified. The virtually unknown sect that had dominated his own family's life was now on the national stage, as Brethren members campaigned on the streets in Hobart against the gay-friendly Greens, and threatened journalists outside churches.

"I told Bruce Hales in a letter that I thought this behaviour was dragging the name of Christianity through the mud, and I suggested some strategies to assist," says McCorkell."

http://www.smh.com.au/good-weekend/tony-mccorkell-reveals-secrets-of-the-wealthy-christian-sect-exclusive-brethren-20160429-goi6lc.html#ixzz4Bsdoeg4
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 18 June 2016 9:02:27 AM
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Poirot,

It must be so painful when your politically correct ideals clash so badly with reality.

I don't know why you keep bringing up these fringe cults, we all know that in even the most enlightened society that there are fringe dwellers, and pointing out these kooks contradicts nothing that I have been saying.

The vast majority of western society accepts a person irrespective of sexual predilections. No muslim country does, and the vast majority of muslims born and raised in western countries do not.

In the words of a Sydney based Imam, you cannot be gay and muslim. No wonder the shooter went nuts.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 18 June 2016 10:34:21 AM
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SM,

There have been 998 mass shootings in the US since Sandy Hook.

3 of them involved Muslims.

998 of them involved males with guns.

Ergo....

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/toxic-masculinity-was-just-as-much-to-blame-for-the-orlando-shootings-as-radical-islam-a7083071.html
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 18 June 2016 10:49:39 AM
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