Suze,

So you have found a 4th tiny anti gay congregation out of > 300 000. These are the exceptions that prove the rule.

Still no luck finding a muslim congregation that is pro gay rights?

Thought not.

SM,

Not content with mimicking Trump on this thread, you're now doing the soft-shoe shuffle to prove - what?

Here's the group that far-right Abbott addressed in the US a while back.

"The Alliance Defending Freedom, a conservative religious group that Tony Abbott is to address in the United States this week, has become prominent in the religious right movement for its work seeking to criminalise sodomy internationally and roll back anti-discrimination laws in America."

http://www.smh.com.au/world/inside-the-alliance-defending-freedom-the-gayhate-group-hosting-tony-abbott-20160125-gmdu9o.html#ixzz4BmTNiuoW

"An article by the Southern Poverty Law Centre, which tracks hate groups in America, says that since it was founded by 30 religious leaders in 1994 the ADF has grown to an organisation with an annual budget of $US30 million ($43 million) with 44 in-house staff and a network of 2200 allied lawyers who work to further their Christian ideology through the law.

"Their work is fanning the flames of anti-gay hatred that already exists in many of the countries where they are injecting themselves. As in Uganda, American groups have been propagandising about the 'recruitment' of young schoolchildren, the allegedly depraved and diseased lives of LGBT people, the paedophilia that is supposedly common among gay men, and the destruction of Christianity and the institution of marriage that they seem certain ending anti-LGBT laws will lead to," writes the Southern Poverty Law Centre.

"This vicious propaganda, born and bred by American ideologues, has found fertile soil across the globe."

Much of the ADF's money is raised anonymously, though some of the wealthiest names associated with the Republican Party..."

SM,

More on the ADF...

"Not the ‘Illuminati’: How Fundamentalist Christians Are Infiltrating State and Federal Government"

"Imagine that a little-known but increasingly powerful group of ideologues had hatched a plan to transform the United States into a Christian theocracy harkening back to the Dark Ages of Europe, a time when society was governed by the laws and officials of the Catholic Church."

"Suppose further that this plan had a scary simple strategy: Recruit bright, young law students; put them through an intensive indoctrination program; place them in plum internships across the country; and watch as they swim upstream until they reach the top of the legal system, where they can create, enforce, and interpret laws according to a legal philosophy infused with fundamentalist Christian theology."

"While participants hail from various denominations, they all commit to using their legal careers to “reorder society” according to a “christendomic” worldview, in which there is no separation between church and state."

http://rewire.news/article/2014/05/13/illuminati-fundamentalist-christians-infiltrating-state-federal-government/

"The Alliance Defending Freedom wants to take America back to the 3rd century. Literally. On the website for its legal fellowship program, the organization explains that it “seeks to recover the robust Christendomic theology of the 3rd, 4th, and 5th centuries.”

“This is catholic, universal orthodoxy and it is desperately crucial for cultural renewal,”

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2014/05/01/3429448/alliance-defending-freedom/

Denying the far-right has this kind of influence in America is either naive or deliberately misleading.

The murder of the British Labor MP, Jo Cox, throws up some questions about the hard right too.

"The man arrested over the killing of Labour MP Jo Cox is believed to have had long-term links with a hard-right group based in London which had been campaigning for many years for Britain to leave the European Union.

Thomas Mair was named as a supporter in an online publication of the Springbok Club, an organisation which has defended the white supremacist apartheid regime in South Africa."

Witnesses to the fatal attack on Ms Cox say they heard Mair shout “Britain First” as the MP was shot and then stabbed. The organisation Britain First, which was founded by former members of the British National Party, has denied that Mair was associated with it and say they condemn the killing."

The leading article for June 2016 Springbok Cyber Newsletter, which describes itself on its website as being pro-free market capitalism and patriotism and anti-political correctness, was, however, devoted to Britain and the referendum. It started: “On Thursday, 23rd June 2016 all British voters will have the opportunity to vote on the future of their country. They can vote either to remain entrapped in the artificial and retrograde European Union, or to regain their sovereign independence....”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/jo-cox-dead-thomas-mair-suspect-south-africa-apartheid-a7086426.html

Notwithstanding that if a man is going to go nuts and kill a prominent MP, one cringes at the carnage he could have inflicted on bystanders if he'd had access to the types of weaponry easily accessed in the US.

I think, SM, that if you're serious about analysing groups and individuals attacking "western values" - you should give equal billing to the ferocious far-right in your travels.

And Turnbull hosted a dinner with a Imam that claimed that homosexuals caused disease. Using your logic, he must be rabidly anti gay, and that label would then apply to anyone that addresses a muslim congregation. Your pathetic guilt by association would make everyone either anti gay or Islamaphobic.

Comparing my to Trump is laughable given that I have personally hired and brought in a muslim engineer on a 457 and enabled permanent residence for him and his family. I have no problem with the majority of muslims, but I completely support the concept that they be held accountable for their actions.

Bringing in Imams that preach hatred is not OK and those that do should be deported or banned from addressing congregations, irrespective of the greens claiming that this is offensive.

I also believe that gay marriage should be legalized, and that sales of guns should be heavily restricted.

I've decided that I don't support equality for or non-discrimination of gays and I'll explain why.

"It's the question of what exactly does 'equality' mean?"

If gays think equality means "The right to sexualise and indoctrinate young Australian children on the basis of some perceived discrimination then I most certainly oppose that.

I'm on the side of protecting children not corrupting them.

For a straight person equality means "You have the right to be gay, I have the right to not be gay"

For a gay person equality means "The right to be gay free from discrimination"

So gay's idea of equality includes sexualising and indoctrinating other peoples kids with a gay ideology in the hope that there will be less discrimination.

But these are kids.
Kids will bully or make fun of each other over new shoes.

I'm not going to support the gay equality idea if that means indoctrinating children with a gay sexual ideology, and if forced to choose, I choose discrimination of gays over indoctrination of children with this gay ideology.

Until they find the right message that doesn't include overstepping their boundaries I'm not supporting their idea of equality.