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How to prevent or contain terrorist acts in Australia?
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Posted by SteeleRedux, Sunday, 21 December 2014 4:14:30 PM
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SteeleRedux,
Do the Scots that you mention belong to a religion/political movement that has a book containing the word of God and which they must, under pain of death, say that they believe to be the immutable word of God and that Muhammad is God's Prophet? I know that many Scots are liars but do they have a tenet in their religion that says that it is OK to lie as long as they don't lie to their fellow Scots. Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 21 December 2014 5:22:01 PM
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Steele, you're playing silly-buggers, possibly out of boredom today?Either that or critical thinking has deserted you.
Your argument for limiting Scottish migration on the basis of violent tendencies is hardly analogous to an ideology with a manifesto and systemic approach towards achieving goals. I happen to agree with your general observation that Scots are a toey mob. We all a bit like different breeds of dogs. You come across as a golden retriever type, but you may be an atypical Scot, for all we know, and I think I am an Afghan houndish. Posted by Luciferase, Sunday, 21 December 2014 6:01:52 PM
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Steele,
...not to mention the Irish. As I said earlier, a proven background of poverty and neglect should disqualify any potential immigrant from leaving their birthplace let alone entering another country. We're told that the problems in Blacktown have their roots in north Lebanon, that the troublemakers are from poor,chronically inbred clans who have large families that they can't feed without state help and where there's a high incidence of domestic violence and family dysfunction. If, as the left insist criminal tendencies really are linked to material issues such as poverty and childhood neglect then surely that has to be the prime consideration for immigration authorities when considering visa applications. Are you from Bekaa? Or Helmand? Or Juba? Or Mogadishu?...sorry, you can't come in, automatic denial. Are you from Belfast? Glasgow? St Petersburg? Belgrade? Athens?...show us your bank balance and your personal documents, pass a character test and pay a $!00,000 bond and you're eligible for citizenship in five years. Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Sunday, 21 December 2014 6:07:52 PM
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You guys are seriously underestimating the extent of the threat.
“The first person to be charged over the violence at immigration detention centres is a 33-year-old Scottish man with a 13-page criminal history who has lived in Australia for at least two decades. However, Darren James McCreadie failed to take out Australian citizenship, and when he was jailed for his most recent offence the Immigration Department cancelled his residency. McCreadie was due to be deported after his release from prison in August, but he appealed against the department's action and was being held in Villawood's high-security area pending the outcome. He has been charged with two counts of damaging federal property, two counts of obstructing immigration officials and affray after an incident at the centre on New Year's Eve.” http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/01/03/1041566224394.html Any what about this Scotsman? “A SCOTTISH national has been charged with dangerous driving causing the death of his friend/work colleague at Hexham this year and bailed with a surety of $100,000. Charles Scott, 22, was the driver of a car involved in an accident that killed Hexham man Troy Jenkins, 35, on New Year’s Day. Leading Senior Constable Ben Howie, of the Victoria Police major collision investigation unit, yesterday said Mr Scott had been charged with one count of dangerous driving causing death. Mr Jenkins and his young son were driving with Mr Scott on Hexham-Chatsworth Road at 11pm when the ute crashed less than a kilometre from the Jenkins’ home. The father of five died at the scene and ambulance officers treated the young boy’s fractured skull before flying him to the Royal Children’s Hospital in Melbourne for observation and treatment.” He was given bail and then received no jail time after the case came to court. Don't you think the government needs to get far tougher on these immigrants? Why was he allowed out on bail, indeed allowed to leave the country? Don't you think it is time you guys got your heads out of the sand? Time to move them and their violent murderous tendencies on before they cause any more grief. Posted by SteeleRedux, Sunday, 21 December 2014 6:36:32 PM
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o sung wu,
you said, "Still as the dust settles, and other stories of horror overtake this matter, there are those amongst us who 'CAN' make a difference. By introducing appropriate legislation that may not entirely prevent such a horror, but at least reduce the possibilities" Can you give examples of the things you were thinking of when you said that. We should consider any suggestions that will stop or contain terrorist activities. A big concern now is later generations of muslims that appear to become easily radicalized. Am sure you are aware that sme think that if someone wants to fight for IS then let them go but not allow them back. I don't know how that could work as they are Aus citizens and most likely have only Aus citizenship. Posted by Banjo, Sunday, 21 December 2014 6:57:58 PM
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In the past few years there have been numerous incidents of recent Scottish arrivals being involved in harrowing crimes, here is one;
“The quiet and reserved Scottish immigrant was regarded as somewhat of an outsider in the small town - yet nobody suspected he could have been responsible for the harrowing triple murder of the Rowe family.”
“Jason Alexander Downie, originally from Kilmarnock, Scotland, emigrated to Australia with his mother in 2006, pleaded guilty to stabbing 16-year-old Chantelle Rowe and her parents Andrew and Rose in the South Australian town of Kapunda in November 2010.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2130901/Kapunda-murders-Jason-Alexander-Downie-stabbed-Chantelle-Rowes-parents-death.html#ixzz3MVa8GIYi
Yes that is right, all stabbed to death by this teenager, but not before raping the daughter.
In another SA case two teenagers named Matthew Craig Austin and Ian Bruce McKenzie (two fine Scottish names) both received 22-year non-parole periods for leading a gang of other teenagers who tortured and stabbed to death Tracy Muntz.
Again in SA another crime shocked the State;
“On the eve of Australia Day 2011, the 17-year old son of a policeman and his 16-year old mate broke into Ms Redman's Yacca Rd home. As the frail 87-year old went to investigate, she was savagely punched to the face, breaking her neck. Despite the broken neck, Ms Redman was conscious as one of the youths retrieved a blunt hunting knife from their car. The other youth then used the knife seven times, before they fled and left her body in a pool of blood to be found by her son-in-law the next afternoon.”
The names of the youths were not released but I am prepared to bet at least one of them was of Scottish ancestry.
Australians need to feel safe in their homes. To have these culturally violent potential killers roaming our streets raping, torturing and killing our families and our pensioners is just too much of a risk. I'm sure you will agree with me that we need to add them to the list of undesirables.