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How to prevent or contain terrorist acts in Australia?

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Dear onthebeach,

You must harbour dreadful dislike and resentment towards your fellow countrymen (that is if you regard Aussies that way) to believe as you apparently do that open borders are fine and the welcome mat is out for anyone from anywhere and in whatever numbers want to come.

It appears that you would want to allow the continuation of allowing those of the Catholic faith to enter as migrants to abuse our young defenseless Australians

OTB to the world: 'Here is the open door, matter of fact no door, open season. It is all care and no responsibility, and the police (and victims) can look out for themselves later'.

Remarking on the Broken Rites statistics which shows there are 150 convicted Catholic priests in Australia many of who sexually assaulted tens and in some cases hundreds of victims each. This is while the leadership of the Catholic Church protected them, reassigned them to fresh parishes, denied the victims of sex crimes any justice. A crime that you yourself would agree to be the most despicable crime imaginable and possibly worse than death, you opine that there are sex crimes happening anyway and list one!

Perhaps if you can illustrate such an abuse of power and responsibility within the Muslim religious hierarchy within Australia we might join forces to expel this threat from our midst. But that is not going to happen is it because the protection of Australian children is furthermost from your mind.

Instead you are very casual, cavalier, about the safety and welfare of your own countrymen. You choose to cherry pick to suit your prejudices rather than having any regard for the safety of our most vulnerable.

What exactly do you believe should be the aims and limits of an immigration program?
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 29 December 2014 6:13:37 PM
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Foxy,
On that basis would you confirm that you would be quite happy for some to engage in the consumption of dog and cat meat, in states where it is lawful. What about the consumption of human placenta? I have never seen laws prohibiting such. Perhaps because there has not been a need as it would be unacceptable to most. But the consumption of human placenta is considered a delicacy in some cultures.

What about the masturbation of babies and toddlers which is done in some cultures.

What about cutting pieces off live animals, like turtles, for consumption.

There are many weird cultural practices in the world.
Posted by Banjo, Monday, 29 December 2014 6:34:54 PM
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Dear Banjo,

Either you're pulling my leg here, simply
stirring, or you're
really somewhat obsessed with only the negative, and
weird practices, of some cultures.

Perhaps you should do a bit of research and find
out the high standards and the very selective criteria that
has to be met
for the granting of visas to this country by the
Immigration Department.

You will then see that your fears are not justified.

Cheers.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 29 December 2014 6:54:42 PM
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cont'd ...

Dear Banjo,

You mentioned only "weird" cultural practices previously.

However there already are quite a few
cultural practices in this country that some people
may find "weird." Things like eating snails, witchety grubs,
offal, hagus, brains, tongues and the list goes on.
As long as the practices are not against our laws, illegal,
or even socially unacceptable - people
have a right to practice them.

The following links may be of interest. They
highlight some cultural differences between us and
others:

http://www.convictcreations.com/culture/japan.html

http://www.convictcreations.com/culture/france.html

http://www.convictcreations.com/culture/australiaasia.html

http://www.convictcreations.com/culture/india.html
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 29 December 2014 7:37:13 PM
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Imagine the wails of indignation from the right wing ratbags on the forum if 150 members of the Islamic clergy had been found guilty of pedophilia against hundreds of children in Australia. Imagine the howls of horror from the very same people if it was discovered these heinous crimes against our little ones had been aided and abetted by the hierarchy of that very same Islamic faith in Australia. The ultra right wingers calls for retribution would be totally and understandably justified, such Un-Australian behavior, should not and cannot be tolerated!
When such activity is pointed out on this very forum, (thank you SteeleRedux), not by members of the Islamic clergy, but by our very own Catholic pedophiles and their stinking leadership , how do our fellow posters from the ultra right react, with nothing more than silence. How about it Beach, nothing to say, or is the Catholic Church unlike The Greens, seen as a supporter of your brand of politics and best left alone and free of disparaging comment from the likes of you?

Foxy just reposting your earlier comment as I believe it encapsulates not only yours, but our fair and reasonable side of the argument.

<<I have stated in the past and continue to
do so now that what is necessary is to make it
quite clear to newcomers that they will be expected
to obey our laws and make an overriding commitment
to Australia, its values, and its people.

I can't make it any clearer for you.

Currently, all Australians are equal under the law.

This means that nobody should be treated differently
from anybody else because of their race, ethnicity,
or country of origin, because of their age, gender,
marital status or disability, or because of their
political or religious beliefs.

Government agencies and
independent courts are required to treat everyone
fairly. This means that you cannot refuse entry into
this country to people because of their race, colour,
religion, gender, marital status, etcetera. What you are
proposing goes against the very framework of the laws -
that we expect everyone to abide by.>>
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 29 December 2014 8:04:08 PM
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Foxy, you did not mention my personal favorite and the 'piece de resistance' SWEETBREADS. My son gets them from his mate the butcher, I love em, eat a whole box on my own. Sheep brains run a close second Now how about this one, my partner "T" love the eyes from fish, not just any eyes but them big whopper eyes you get from fish like Snapper. back home Kina is a favorite, that is the internals of the sea urchin, along with the "custard" from crabs, she treats fresh kina as a real delicacy, myself, I can take em or leave em.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 29 December 2014 8:20:43 PM
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