To put it blunt, your monkey, your back, not mine.
onthebeach,
Well, the old Australian mentality of stuff you Jack I'm alright is alive & well. No wonder the middle easterners love it here.

individual,

We are at skew lines in our discussion.

With respect, being FOG* resistant (as in fear, obligation and guilt, Google it) is a very different kettle of fish to what you are trying to extend it to.

[*I hasten to add that RObert has already said that emotional blackmail wasn't his intent anyhow. It is quite commonly wielded as a weapon by some OLO posters though]

For what it is worth, I happen to agree with you (if I am reading you right) that the world view, core beliefs and traditions some of the cultures imported and fostered through Malcolm Fraser's ill-conceived 'multiculturalism' are corrosive to values of our culture that we have traditionally held dear, an example being concern for community.

Some of my Asian (Chinese) work colleagues have observed that whereas they have far greater sense of family kinship and have far stronger obligations to their extended family than Aussies, they do not share the Australian's concern and sense of duty to help others in the community. In fact they regard the age pension, to take an instance, as Aussies giving something away that they don't want, being wasteful and profligate they (the Asians) reckon, and being informed by their own culture, find it difficult to appreciate and be thankful for such 'generosity'.

The diversity-we-have-to-have is changing overall community attitudes to the government handouts that many Australians would like continued to provide for them, without obligation on their part - the European inheritance (tradition) if you like. The future will be interesting. In some respects the future is already here.

Some might note some questionable traditions affecting women that have been imported, but the feminists are apparently not concerned.

onthebeach,
cheers for that & my appologies for failing to make it clear that my remarks weren't aimed at you personally.
To put paid to this I can only say, yes women are more aggressive. They're not physically as violent in general but they cause the greater percentage of male violence. They're extremely manipulative & selfish. It's not so hard for a father to admit his son was a deadbeat but a mother ? No way.

individual,

I am sure it was my mistake. Thank you for taking it so kindly.

Individual "To put paid to this I can only say, yes women are more aggressive. They're not physically as violent in general but they cause the greater percentage of male violence. They're extremely manipulative & selfish. "

Really?
Where are your stats on those statements?
Or was it just the (really narrow) world according to Individual who made this statement up?
Summing up your world, it appears to me that the only people you must really relate to out there in the real world (and here on this site) are white/Caucasian , gun-loving, non-intellectual, old -fashioned, middle aged Australian men.

Been away in NZ for over a week visiting the partners Whanau (family) only about 500 this time a small gathering, doing some other things as well, like attending a Aussie gay marriage (legal in NZ).
I find this an interesting topic. are "Women more aggressive" than they once were, I'll have to go along with Suse with <<Where are your stats on those statements?>>. Since there is no base to measure how aggressive women were in the past you can't compare it with today, could be more or less, could be the same. Opinion is entirely a different matter, in my opinion, in general women are more assertive than they once were, that in itself doesn't make them more aggressive, although I would say its unlikely to make women less aggressive. There are several factors that could make women more aggressive, not the least a general increase in violence in society. I would also suspect that with women becoming empowered through financial independence, education etc, and better support mechanisms in society, more women would retaliate when confronted with certain situations, where in the past they may well have "copped it sweet", as many women did in the past, because they had no other option other than to do so.