Paul1405

If I recall correctly when women were being transported out on the convict ships to this country, the captains found them (the women) to be much more difficult to manage than the male convicts.

However, statistical data is only as good as the data that is collected. The way the data is collected and correlated and analysed is open to much interpretation and misinformation.

So relying on 'the holy grail of data' can be extremely misleading.

If we take DV or IPV for example, a vast majority of the research is of the type where women are the victims and men are the perpetrators.

If we look at the current research article
http://news.optuszoo.com.au/2014/06/27/women-more-aggressive-to-partners/

It says women are more aggressive to partners and are shown to use a range of 'controlling behaviours'.

The typical stance of a number of posters is too purely focus on physical violence and injury. Yet aggression covers a whole range of types of behaviours, such as passive-aggressive, the silent treatment, through to putdowns, emotional manipulation, verbal abuse, shouting.

Generally speaking in this type of research men and women are never asked the same questions, this already leads to a research bias.

http://www.franks.org/fr01060.htm

A survey conducted in 1987, 67% of women "questioned" (this does not include all women in the world) admitted to initiating conflict.(705 alberta men and women took part in this survey)

Erin Pizzey wrote, when she opened her refuge in 1971, that of the first 100 women, 60 were as violent, if not more violent than the men that they had left.

<On the surface, it often looks as though the dominant partner holds
<the power. Actually, in my experience this is very rarely true. Usually the adrenalin <personality has
<the drive, the creativity and the energy which seems to be a by-product of violence and <chaos.

Erin Pizzey Prone to Violence.

Now before I get accused again of misogyny.

There is a news story how a mentally ill man killed his parents. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-07/son-michael-phillips-accused-of-murdering-parents-encounter-bay/5371150

My heart bleeds for Luke Battys mother, it is such a sad and tragic story.

<Following a beating on November 28, 2011, the girl asked her mother for drugs to relieve <the pain, but the woman said there was none in the house.
<The girl replied: "Well could you at least say a prayer for me?"
<She died later that day.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/dead-girl-was-invisible-to-state-system-coroner-20140627-zsoyp.html#ixzz36B1FPsZA

I still struggle to understand how a human being could possibly do this to another.

I suspect any stats out their are pretty suspect. Millions poured into women's studies of how oppressive men are. Imagine trying to get a pass from the feminist professors or journalist by producing data that contradicts the dogmas. The 'progressives'argued that the increase in violence and porn which saturates our screens have no affect on people. How could they then possibly come up with any truthful conclusions? Meanwhile sexual and physcial abuse on men, woman and children are in epidemic proportions in indigeneous communities. The 'progessives ' ignore this or blame it on the white male. The more 'educated'we become the less solutions we seem to have. More programs, more education, more money is the mantra. History shows the opposite.

Wolly B. firstly I deplore violence by any person male or female. I tend to think that the stats on this may be a little askew as it could be easier to identify the perpetrators of violence, than it is to identify the unassuming victims of violence. Good point that there is other forms of violence, other than the physical.
Runner as a "progressive" I see your post as nonsensical, I for one do not support unrestricted violence being shown as entertainment. In fact the most violence I have come across in my life is the real institutionalised violence of the Catholic Church, it continues to this day, despite thie best efforts to get out of it! Yes, <<sexual and physcial abuse on men, woman and children are in epidemic proportions in indigeneous communities.>> its not being ignored by progressives, it is a major problem that has to be addressed.

What is interesting is that I mostly quote female authors on DV or IPV, such as Erin Pizzey, Wendy McElroy, Eeva Sodhi, Kathy Young, Chirstina Hoff Sommers, yet I get accused of being a misogyny or have personal attacks made.

http://reason.com/archives/2014/02/22/are-domestic-violence-statistics-bogus

This article by Wendy McElroy makes for interesting reading.

Paul1405,

In your post on page 8 you remarked that women who have become empowered through financial independence, education etc, and better support mechanisms in society, would retaliate where in the past they may well have "copped it sweet" having no other option no other option other than doing so.

Leaving to one side any discussion on what manner of 'empowerment' or education might encourage and rationalise violence, your assessment of increased partner violence from women is likely supported by statistics.

In an earlier post there is an article and ABS stats with this link,
http://www.oneinthree.com.au/news/2013/12/17/domestic-violence-against-men-has-doubled-since-2005-abs.html

<"It wouldn’t surprise me if the level of domestic violence against men is also on the rise due to the one-sided approach to the issue taken by successive governments and NGOs such as Amnesty International and the White Ribbon Foundation. Saying ‘no’ to violence against women is important, but by not saying that violence against men is equally wrong, we send the message to some women that it’s OK to abuse their partners,” said Mr Andresen.

The ABS Personal Safety Survey 2012 found that:

at least one in three victims of current partner violence, emotional abuse and stalking during the last 12 months were male
around one in three victims of physical violence by a boyfriend/girlfriend or date since the age of 15 were male
almost one in three victims of sexual assault during the last 12 months were male
more than one in three victims of physical and/or sexual abuse before the age of 15 were male.>

It is sad but predictable that instead of recognising that 'violence is violence', Labor is chasing cheap votes with its mantra that only women and children are victims.