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Women more aggressive

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Suseonline & Paul1405,
Those Stats you're seeking are out there in plain sight on suburbian streets & on the footpaths in the cities, outside night clubs etc. when the wives & other kinds of female associates of both men & males are stirring so much crap that many males just snap.
Go & seek & ye shall find.
Suseonline, as for my narrow world I challenge you anytime that your world is a lot narrower than mine. What you think is the real world is nothing but an artificially complex control mechanism full of unimaginable weirdos, whereas I live in remote communities where males are men & woman are happy with that. Our women see no need whatsoever to look & dress like males so they can hate males. We still have great social functions with jokes & laughter rather than have to hide behind PC whilst poking at our iphones.
Which world do you think is more "real" ?
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 1 July 2014 2:09:38 PM
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Individual "...I live in remote communities where males are men & woman are happy with that. Our women see no need whatsoever to look & dress like males so they can hate males."

Lol!
Are you still living in a pre 1950's timewarp Individual?
"Our" women? Don't any of 'your' women wear trousers then?
Do all women that wear trousers and shirts hate men then?
Have I ever said anywhere that I hate males?

I don't see where on this site that anyone has ever said women can't be aggressive or violent. Of course they can be, and are, violent.

If some people are upset with the white ribbon campaign, then why not go to your local pollie and say so? Ask for a more encompassing anti violence campaign.
Stop whining and carrying on and do something about it!
Posted by Suseonline, Tuesday, 1 July 2014 2:34:16 PM
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Stop whining and carrying on and do something about it!
Suseonline,
Well, looks like you can't see it but many here on OLO are trying to enlighten the likes of you & 1405.
I don't see where on this site that anyone has ever said it'd be an easy task but as they say never give up ! :-)
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 1 July 2014 2:53:16 PM
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onthebeach, while I'm no fan of Labor it's worth remembering that it was the coalition under Howard who ran the completely gendered "Voilence against women" campaign. I was involved in attempts to get them to include some examples that did not fit the stereotype. They were aware of the issue but chose to ignore it.

I've not seen any signs that the current mob take the issue of stopping all violence seriously either.

You might also remember Julia's hit on single mums. Its not all as one sided as I wish it was.

Individual those sidewalk observations have let us down badly in the past. They get reinfoced by what we already believe. Its very subjective in a bunch of ways, driving gives me plenty of opportunity to observe lots of very aggressive driving and most of that is male tradies (or males driving utes with cargo nets, lots of tools and tradie like clothing to be more precise).

We are also not working from a clean slate, years of male violence and aggression being the target of various campaigns I think that male behaviour is often different from it might be in other times and places.

I don't think attempts to paint either gender as more or less of something help at all. Its diverted attention from getting to the real cause of DV for years, the focus being on gender rather than the factors that actually provide some correlation to DV.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Tuesday, 1 July 2014 6:31:41 PM
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Well said RObert, and I think on that note I will see you all on another thread.
Cheers,
Suse.
Posted by Suseonline, Tuesday, 1 July 2014 7:55:46 PM
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Stop whining and carrying on and do something about it!
Posted by Suseonline, Tuesday, 1 July 2014 2:34:16 PM

More than a few people in the past have tried.

<· Dr. Steinmetz told me that she received verbal threats and anonymous phone calls from
<radical women's groups threatening to harm her children. And when the ACLU invited her to
<speak on domestic violence, it received a bomb threat.

<· All three of us received death threats. Bomb threats were phoned in to conference centers
<and buildings where we were scheduled to present....

<· When we reported the results of the Second National Family Violence Survey the personal
<attacks continued and the professional critiques simply ignored methodological revisions to
<the measurement instrument. This round of personal attacks was much more insidious-in
<particular, it was alleged that Murray had abused his wife.
(Straus, Gelles and Steinmetz)

<· " Shortly thereafter, McNeely received letters from a Pennsylvania women's organization
<threatening to use its influence in Washington to pull his research funding. He also suffered <many other "character assassinations."

<· Any legislator, researcher or public figure of any kind who attempted to object to this level
<of government control of private lives, who suggested seeking solutions other than divorce
<or that men and women were equally responsible for the problem was labeled a misogynist,
<an abuser, or worse. Many careers have been ruined by shelter advocates resisting change
<or accountability for their programs. Some questioning these programs have even suffered
<threats of physical harm or specious lawsuits. This kind of behavior on the part of anti-
<male, anti-family factions of the radical feminist movement continues today. 34 years of
<women's shelter service

· Librarians publicly stated they would not order or shelve our books. (Straus, Gelles and Steinmetz)

"Other social scientists committed to studying husband abuse and family violence also receive similar threats. Fear and intimidation has led to researchers giving battered men a wide berth.
Posted by Wolly B, Tuesday, 1 July 2014 7:57:55 PM
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