How do u think the United States controls the situation now.

Australia's geographic location dictates that unless the United States controls Australia it cannot control the world..

Without the communication ability that Pine Gap and Exmouth Gulf provides the United States would be at a distinct disadvantage.

Explained like two bullies in a playground beating up on one person. The two bullies have the distinct advantage.

If we were neutral no military assets in our territory and took and defended a neutral position the balance of power between the United States and Asia would be neutralised.

As it stands now when the Asian continent rises to its full ability someone must control Australia to win.

United States military intelligence is working here in Australia to create fortress Australia
To protect their own agenda.
When the time comes the war will be fought in our back yard.

After the Pearl harbour debacle, the American Military machine vowed to an extent that is beyond belief, that any future war would not be in their back yard rather someone's else's.

Why do u think Bin Larden got up their nose, because he demonstrated that the. American nation could be hit it, was not impossible.

Now terrissiom is here for ever because it is an effective tool to combat the might of the American killing machine.

This debate about a neutral country may well be ahead of its time but it never the less the most important issue facing not only us but mankind of course that is only if we are selfish, weak, misled by our leaders lied to and corrupted.

Mark my words if this debate ever gains momentum it is the single greatest threat to the United States world domination that they will ever encounter.

In the long term Nobody can afford Australia to belong to anyone else but us the United States military know this and work very hard to define the relationship.

Do I think that Australia is strong enough within its own character NO. However if we don't get destroyed in the mean time that day will come.

I am aware my thoughts expressed here will offend some.
And that our author will be one of those it however is not my intention to do so.
I was born into a poor but solid Christian family, both parents from solid Christian family's.
At one stage we COE went to another Church, as it was the only one in our then tiny village.
In time I and most of my family took it a step fure ther, becoming born again totally committed Christians.
Involvement with a Church that preached forgiveness but hung its leader out to dry started most of us thinking.
All but one are no longer Christians or even believers, *that one fits the description I post here*
It seems clear to me that most of those street preachers and who put them self up as Gods mouth piece are the *VERY WORST TO PREACH*
A depth of understanding is called for here, as we drift further from belief these self appointed folk seem to push us on our way.
My Christianity was not expressed in selk glorification but honest behind the scenes help.
Behind the scenes, an apt place to view the truths, the Catholic Church is far from alone in having beasts using the Church.
With respect hoping a nonexistent God will shoulder our burden is to ignore why is our history full of evidence he would do no such thing.

' If he is can you then please explain why this God tolerates so much wrong-doing ? '

if He did not Individual, you me and every other poster would of been wiped out long ago. Moral relativist however have no logical way to define ' wrong - doing' .

Logic is not some think I look for in your posts runner.
I however offer every post on the subject of Christianity you ever wrote as evidence my views are on target.
IF my rejection of Christ was proved wrong,I have little doubt you would keep me company in that other place
Breath easy we go to the same place all go, not to heaven.
But regards and thanks for yet again letting me look in to your preserved for only some heaven.

Moral relativist however have no logical way to define ' wrong - doing' .
runner,
so, what yo're saying is we just sit back, be nice to all who want to get us under their yoke of primitive superstition & we'll all go to heaven.
Not bad. Why don't you do a trial run & go to Syria for a few years to practice your preaching there & send us an email every now & then. Ah & tell them they should just all come here because you & the likes of you can easily support them with the help of God.

Dear Individual,

<<Only to people with no sense of resonsibility. Decent people view it as a form of Society building & who realise that everyone has to pull their weight . At lest morally anyway.>>

I shouldn't wish this even on my worst enemies!
Perhaps the only way you ever understand this is when your own son, a delicate and sensitive 18 year-old boy, is forcefully snatched away from home and university and thrown into a den of sadistic wolves, in the company of ruffians where he undergoes a prolonged saga of bullying, torture and degradation, where for the first time in your life you, his father and your wife, his mother, stand helplessly and cannot save him from his ongoing misery.

Why should someone in that predicament ever want to "serve" his country - that country which supports his tormentors? When push comes to shove, when actual war erupts, wouldn't it be their sensible choice to side with the state's enemies and shoot backwards at his cruel superiors instead?

A society that allows this extreme form of cruelty, is not worth surviving. If basic freedom is being robbed anyway, then what good is to keep this society alive? Since freedom does not exist, it would be equally the same to surrender to the Chinese invaders, or perhaps to the Muslim Shariah Jihadists and convert - what would the difference be anyway?

If your society is worth preserving, then people would happily volunteer to serve it (as indeed they did in World-War-I, when even older people lied about their age in order to reach the front): are there reasons for you to suspect your society's morality that makes you too scared to put this to the test again?

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May I please remind everyone that the topic is whether or not Australia should become neutral - not about God and religion, a diversion that only started as a result of the nick-name of this thread's initiator rather than the content of his/her words.