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how to suceed succesion ..?..[lamb-island]

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Bill has asked lately...how the mind..could ever..have made the ego.

This is..a perfectly..reasonable question;..in fact,..the best question either of you could ask...There is no point..in giving an historical answer,..because the past does not matter..in human terms, and..history would not exist..if the..*same errors..were not being repeated*.in the present.

B. has..often..told you that..your thinking is too
abstract at times,..and he is right.

Abstraction..DOES apply..to knowledge,..because knowledge..is completely impersonal,..and examples..are irrelevant..to its understanding.

Perception,..however,..is always specific,..and therefore
quite concrete...Perceptual distortions..*are not abstractions...They are.merely confusions.

Each man..makes..one ego for himself,..although it is
subject..to enormous variation..because of its..instability,
and one..for everyone he perceives,..which is equally variable.

Their interaction..IS a process
which..literally alters both,..because they..
were not made*..either..BY..or..WITH..*the unalterable.

It is particularly important..to realize..that this alteration
can..and does occur..as readily/when the interaction..takes place IN THE MIND..as when..*it involves physical presence.

THINKING..about..another ego..is as effective..in changing
relative/associative perception..as is..their..physical interaction.

There could be..no better example..of the fact that the ego
is an idea,..though not*..a reality-based/[thus biased-thought.
Your..own present state..is the best concrete example..that B...could have..of how the mind..*could have made the ego.

You DO have..real knowledge..at times,..but then you throw it away
as if..it is..as like you never had it...This willfullness is so
apparent that..B. need only perceive it;to see that is DOES happen.

If it can occur that way..in the present,..why should he
be surprised..that it occurred..that same-way..in the past?

All..psychology rests on..the principle..of continuity/of behavior.
Surprise..is a reasonable-response..to the unfamiliar,..but hardly to something*..that has occurred..with such persistence.

An extreme example..is a good teaching aid,..not because it
is typical,..but because it/is clear...The more complex..the material,..the clearer..the examples should be..for teaching
purposes.

(Bill, remember that..for your own course,
and do not..avoid the dramatic...It/holds the student’s interest precisely because..it is so apparent..that it CAN be readily
perceived.)

But,..as we have said before,..all teaching devices in the
hands of good-teachers..are aimed at rendering themselves unnecessary.

I would therefore..like to use/your present state..as an example of how..the mind can work,..*provided you both fully/recognize that it need*..not work that way.

I NEVER forget this myself,..and a good teacher
shares..*his own ideas,..*which he himself believes.

Otherwise,..he cannot..*really..“profess”
them,..as we used..the term before.
Posted by one under god, Friday, 8 November 2013 5:10:16 PM
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New Maps of Heaven
From Spiritual Evolution
http://goldengaiadb.com/New_Maps_of_Heaven

"Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal." -Jesus in Matthew 6:19-20

Introduction
Discarnate Travellers

Coming Home

The Borderlands - Awakening

The Planes of Life

The Astral Plane - Arrival

The Astral Plane – Orientation

The Astral Plane – Common Summerland Elements

The Astral Plane – The Higher Summerlands

The Astral Planes – The Lower Summerlands

The Astral Plane – The Stony Plane

The Astral Plane – The Dark Plane

The Mental Plane – The First Heaven

The Judgment

The Second Death

The Mental Plane – The Second Heaven

The Mental Plane – The Third Heaven

The Buddhic Plane

The Christ Sphere

Human Planes Beyond the Christ Sphere

The Angelic Sphere

The Children’s Sphere

The Animal Kingdom

Hierarchy

Work

Religion

Travel

The Earth Plane

Other Planets

Reincarnation and the Purpose of Life

Earth Teachings

Footnote to History
Incarnate Observers

Coming Home

The Planes, the Bodies, and Spiritual Evolution

The Physical Plane

The Borderlands

The Astral Plane

The Mental Plane

The Mental Plane – The First Heaven

The Judgment

The Second Death

The Mental Plane - The Second Heaven

The Mental Plane - The Third Heaven

The Mental Plane - The Fourth Heaven

The Mental Plane - The Fifth Heaven

The Mental Plane - The Sixth Heaven

The Mental Plane - The Seventh Heaven

The Buddhic Plane

The Nirvanic Plane

The Monadic and Divine Planes

The Dark Plane

The Animal Kingdom

Angels and Others

Philosophy

Bibliography
http://goldengaiadb.com/Reincarnation_and_the_Purpose_of_Life
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 9 November 2013 8:36:52 AM
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With.*full recognition..of..the transitory-nature,..of sharing/profession..
(a recognition..which I..hope..you both..share),..

H...offers a very good teaching/example..of alternations between Soul..and ego,..with con-comitant variation..between peace and frenzy...it is/perfectly apparent..that /when she..is ego-dominated,..she DOES..NOT KNOW*..her Soul.

Her abstract-ability,..which is..perfectly genuine
and..does stem..from knowledge,..cannot..help her..because
she has turned..into the concrete..[made-real/turned to stone].... that..which she cannot handle..abstractly.

thus..by..making abstraction..concrete]..that Being
is yet incapable..of appropriate..concreteness..of perceptually,..

because her ego..is not her..natural home,..she suffers from
its intrusions,..[illusions]..but NOT..from complete..lack/of knowledge.

The result..is..a kind of...“double/vision”,..which would*
have..produced..an actual/dyplopia,..if she had not..settled for nearsightedness.

This was..an attempt..to see..the concretion..more clearly
through..the ego’s eyes,..without the..“interference”..of the longer
range.

Her virtual..lack..of astigmatism..miss-percieving..
is due/to her..real-efforts..at objectivity..and fairness.
She has not attained them,..or she would..not be nearsighted...But she/HAS tried..to be fair..with what*..she permitted/herself..to see.

Why are you surprised..that something..which..happened..in/the dim past,..when..it is..so/clearly happening..even right now?

You forget..the love..that even animals have..for their own
offspring,..and the need..*they feel..to protect them...This is because they..regard them as..part/of themselves...

No one disowns something..that..*he
regards..as..a very real/part..of himself.

Man reacts..to his ego..much as like..how
God does.to His Souls,—with love,protection,..and great-charity.

The reaction..of man..to the self..he too
has..made..is not at all surprising...In fact,..it duplicates
in many ways..the way..*he will*..one day react to..his real creations,..*which are..as timeless as/he is.

The question..is not..HOW man..
*responds..*toward his ego,..but only what..he believes..he IS.

Again,..belief..is an ego-function,..and as /long as..your origin is open..to belief at all,..you ARE regarding it*..from..an ego viewpoint.

That is why..the Bible quotes..me as saying,.."Ye believe..in God, believe also.in me.”..Belief DOES apply to me,..because I am the
teacher..professing..of the ego.

When teaching..is no longer necessary,..you will merely know God.
Belief..that there IS..another way..is the loftiest idea..of which ego-thinking is capable...This is because..it contains a hint of recognition..*that the ego is NOT the self.

Helen always/had this idea,..but it merely confused her.

B.,.you were more capable..of a long-range
view,..and that is why your..eye[hind]-sight is good.
But..you were willing*..to see because you/utilized judgment..against what you saw.

This gave you..a clearer perception..than Helen’s,
but*..its also..what..cut off the cognitive level..ever more deeply.

That..is why..you believe..that
you never..had/knowledge.

Repression..HAS been..a stronger mechanism..in..your own ego/defense,..and
that is..why you find..her mind-shifts..so hard to tolerate.
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 9 November 2013 2:14:38 PM
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Willfulness..is more..characteristic..of her,..and/that..is why..she..has less..applicable-sense
than you do...It is extremely fortunate,..temporarily,..that the/particular strengths..*you will..*both develop..and use..are precisely..those which..the other/must*..supply..now.

You..who will be..the strength of God..are quite weak,..and
you..who will/be God’s help..are clearly in need of help...What better plan..could have been devised..to/prevent..the intrusion..of the ego’s..arrogance on/the outcome?

Undermining..the foundation..of an ego’s thought-system MUST be perceived as..painful,..even though..this..is anything but true.

Babies scream..in rage..if you take away a/knife or..a scissors,
even though..they may*..well harm themselves..if you do not...The
speedup..has placed you both..in the same position.

You..are NOT by any means prepared,
and in this sense..you ARE babies...You have/no sense of real self-preservation..and are very likely..to decide that you need precisely/what..would hurt you most.

Whether you know it..now or not,..however,..you both HAVE
willed to cooperate..in a concerted..and very commendable/effort to become both harm*LESS..and help*FULL,..*two attributes which MUST go together.

Your attitudes,..even toward this,*..are necessarily
conflicted,..because ALL attitudes..are ego-based.
This will not last.

Be patient awhile,..and remember..what we have said
once before;..the outcome..*is as certain..as God!

Helen..used to perceive..the quotation..“To him that hath
shall be given”..as a paradox..that bordered on the ironic.

She also..had a similar reaction..to another related one:
“Faith..is the gift of God.”..We have reinterpreted..both of these
statements before,..but perhaps we can make them..even clearer now.

Only those..who have a real..and lasting sense..
of abundance..can be truly charitable...This is quite obvious when you consider..the concepts involved.

To be able to give..*anything implies..that you can do without it. Even if..you associate..giving with sacrifice,..you still give only because..you believe you are..somehow getting something better..so
that you can do..without the thing you give.

“Giving to get”..is an inescapable law..of the ego,
which ALWAYS..evaluates itself in..*relation to others’..egos,..and is therefore..continually..*pre*occupied..with the scarcity principle
which..gave rise to it.

This IS/the meaning of Freud’s..“pleasure principle.”
Freud was the..most accurate..“ego psychologist”.we ever had, although..he would not..have preferred..this description of..himself.

His ego..was a very weak..and deprived concept,..which could
function..ONLY as a thing..in need...The..“reality principle”..of the ego is not real..at all...It is forced..to perceive the..“reality”
of other egos,..because it CANNOT*..establish the reality of itself.

In fact,..its..whole perception/of..other egos..AS real
is..ONLY..an attempt..to convince..*itself..that..*IT..is real.

i..am that..i am.
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 9 November 2013 2:33:30 PM
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"Self esteem,”..in ego terms,..means nothing more..than that the ego has..deluded itself..into accepting its reality..and is therefore temporarily..less predatory.

This..“self esteem”..is/always vulnerable to stress,..a term which really means that..a condition has arisen..in/which the delusion of reality..of the ego..is threatened...This produces either..ego-deflation..or ego-inflation,..resulting in either withdrawal*..or attack.

The ego literally*..lives by/comparisons..This means that equality is beyond its.. grasp,..and charity becomes impossible.

The ego..NEVER gives out-of abundance,..because
it was made..as a substitute..for it...This is why..the concept of GETTING..arose in the ego’s thought-system...All appetites are..“getting”/mechanisms..representing ego-needs..to confirm itself.

This is..as true..of bodily/appetites..as it is
of the..so-called..“higher”..ego needs..[drives].

Bodily appetites..are NOT physical/in origin,..because the ego regards the body*..as its home,,,and DOES try..only..to satisfy itself
through the body.

But the IDEA..that this is possible..is a decision of the ego,
which is*..completely confused..about what is..really possible./true/good.

This accounts..for its..essential..erratic-ness...Consider..the inevitable confusion..which MUST arise from..a perception of the self
which responds:..When..I was completely..on my own I..“had no idea what was possible.”

The ego..DOES believe it..is completely..on its own,
which is merely..another way of/describing..how it originated.

This is such..a fearful state..that it can only turn/to other egos,
and unite..*with them..in a feeble attempt..at identification,*..or attack them..in an equally/feeble show..of strength...[fear avoidence]

The ego..is free to complete..the stem:..“When I was completely
on my own”..in any way..*it chooses,..but it is NOT free..to consider the validity..of the/premise itself,..because this premise..*is its FOUNDATION.

The ego..IS the belief..of the
mind..that it is completely*..on its own.
The ego’s ceaseless attempts/to gain..the Soul’s acknowledgement..
and..thus establish..ego-tism..of..its own self-existence..are utterly useless.

The Soul in its knowledge..is unaware of the ego...It
does NOT attack the ego...It merely cannot conceive..of it at all.
While the ego is equally..unaware of the Soul.. it DOES perceive itself..as rejected..by something which is greater/than itself.

This is way..self-esteem..in ego terms
MUST be..with-held..as a delusion...The creations..of God do/not create myths,..but..the creative-efforts..of man..can turn to
mythology,..but only..under one condition.

What..man then makes..is no longer creative.
Myths..are entirely perceptions..and are so ambivalent..in form,
and so characteristically/good..and..evil in nature..that the most benevolent..of them..is not..without fearful/components,/if..only in innuendo.

Myths..and magic.are closely/associated,..in that..myths are usually
related..to..the ego*origins,..and magic..to the..powers..which the ego ascribes..to itself.

Every..mythological-system...includes..an account..of..“the creation,”..and..associates..this..with its*/particular..perception..of magic.
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 9 November 2013 2:54:37 PM
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The “battle of for survival”..is nothing more than the ego’s struggle to preserve..itself..and its interpretation..of its own beginning. This beginning is always associated with/physical birth, because nobody maintains that the ego existed before that point in time.

The religiously ego-oriented..tend to believe that the Soul existed before,..and will continue..to exist afterward, after a temporary lapse into ego-life.

Some actually believe that the/Soul will be punished for this lapse, even though in reality it could not possibly know..anything about it.

The term “salvation”..does NOT apply to the Soul,.which is not in danger..and does..not need to be salvaged...Salvation is nothing more that..“right-mindedness”..which is/NOT..the one-mindedness of the Soul,..but which must be accomplished..before onemindedness..can be restored.

Right-mindedness dictates..the next step automatically,.because right perception..is uniformly without attack,..so that wrong-mindedness is
obliterated...The ego cannot survive without judgment,.and is laid aside accordingly.

The..mind then has..now..only ONE direction in which it can move.
The directions which the mind..will take are always automatic, because they cannot/BUT.be dictated by the thought-system to which it adheres.

Every thought-system has/INTERNAL consistency,..
and this does provide..a basis for the continuity of behavior.
However,..this is still reliability..and NOT,,any indication..of validity.

Reliable behavior..is a meaningful/usefull/functioning
perception,..as far as ego..thinking goes.]..However, VALID behavior is an expression which/is inherently contradictory,..because validity is*..an END,..and behavior is a means.

These..cannot be combined logically,..because when an end
has been attained,..the means for its..attainment are no longer meaningful.

Test constructors/recognize..that there are different kinds of validity,..and also that..they are of different orders...of progression/process..sequential..evolution.

That This..focus/limiting..of means..indicates..that they*..do/not..mean true/truth..and do not..pretend..to mean it.

Test validity can be judged..by logic,..by theory,..and
by practice,..each..being regarded as..a different dimension.

In each case,...the amount of confidence..is/expressed in some form of percentage,..either quantitatively,..or merely in terms of..“high,”
moderate,..and low...probability/eventuality..

But a hypothesis..is tested..as either true or false,..to be accepted or/rejected accordingly...If it is shown..to be true..it becomes a fact,..after which no one..attempts to evaluate..it unless its status AS fact is questioned.

and..the unthinking mind ..refuses to
re*think..yet continues..its miss-creation.[..its..own-ideas]

EVERY idea..which the ego has accorded..the status of fact is questionable,..because..facts..are in the realm of knowledge...not ideas.
Posted by one under god, Sunday, 10 November 2013 6:54:25 AM
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