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The Forum > General Discussion > Where is the REAL problem with federal Labor - The Prime Minister or her Party ?

Where is the REAL problem with federal Labor - The Prime Minister or her Party ?

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I don't get some people who write in this column like Lexi and other people. Lexi said he doesn't like listening to media beatups, yet he and some other people are always putting up sites or links or quotes from all the media outlets? We read the Courier Mail, and I reckon it's a pretty good paper and gives all the Partys a good go? After all, where else do we get the accurate news if we don't look at TV or read the news papers? I will admit the ads on TV drive our daughter in law mad, me I just sleep thru them all.
Posted by misanthrope, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 3:18:51 PM
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I had no choice but to return to mention again that Q and A episode.
First however show me who knew Rudd was as described in the two posts above mine, lets stick to this.
The actions of those who knifed him out way any fault he had.
QxA well Matt Thislwaite did well n that program, he never answered a question , that is his job.
He is a good bloke, but lets see how he shows me at least, why the party needs reform.
Matt had a seat in Federal Parliament pulled from under him.
He a long term and loyal member, was pushed aside by Latham, the seat given to, a star candidate, good singer .
our current education minister, who first had to join the Labor party.
Matt supported his and my ex boss, Bill Shorten, all are AWU members.
Richo? long before we took back government, only to let it slip at our factions hands.
Was one of our very best,my question is.
*If I and others feel betrayed are we to remain silent*? to do what our tormentors never did? put party first*
SOLIDARITY IS A LIE, ONE THAT BETRAYS BY IGNORING WRONGS, DOES GREAT DAMAGE TO MY PARTY.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 3:53:02 PM
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Here's something for those who can think instead of
merely condeming:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/mar/21/australians-julia-gillard
Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 5:17:57 PM
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http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/if-he-will-step-up-the-pms-job-is-likely-his-20130625-2ovcb.html
And here Lexi is one for you.
Dare I say it may make you think?
It is not from a leftist pen, not from a red neck one.
In fact it is from middle Australia.
No one , on any side, can tell those who think differently to think again.
Only history will know who was right and who was wrong.
As sure as we swim with joy, in the refreshing water of polling, when they are with us.
It is blindness to combat them when we disagree with them.
If on Friday Gillard walks out of parliament as PM we will know Labor has con-seeded defeat.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 6:02:38 AM
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The fix is already in, Belly. The Unions have already picked their winner and the poor bl00dy worker isn't her.

Care to place a small wager on my prediction of the future ALP from a few days ago? I'm getting more certain by the day.

Gillard's role, having failed to win rusted-on male ALP support, shifted a few months ago to alienating it as much as she could, so that it would create as many vacancies as possible and destroy the power base of the blue-collar Unions. That clears the way for her Emily's Listers to take over and the white-collar, middle-class, progressive female unions to usurp the blue-collar, working-class, socially conservative male unions to be removed as an impediment to women's domination of the Party room.

Swan basically confirmed it for me yesterday when he made what passes for an economic statement from him. He went out of his way to say that service industries, not mining, not manufacturing, not construction are the future of Australia and claimed that they are now 80% of the Australian economy.
Posted by Antiseptic, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 6:19:39 AM
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Anti, glad you asked about mark ups, hope I don't bore you.

I started my first shop in 89, my sales were $8400 per week, my margin was 33%, so my mark up was 50%.

I netted just shy of $2000 per week after all expenses.

Huge money back then.

My last shop was in 2010, my sales were $15,000 per week, my margin was 50% so my mark up was 100%.

I netted about the same.

Very small return these days, especially given the risk involved and the exposure that goes with it.

The rest, some $6500 per week, paid for in full by the consumer, went in additional expenses.

Now, there are shop around that still net in the low 30's, but instead of a turnover of under $10K, they need to turnover at least $80K, just to survive.

It's all due to expenses.

Lexi, Q&A will be interesting, especially following the allegations about Indo police involvement.

Now may I suggest, that while you are watching that show, one I enjoy as well, just keep in your mind just why our borders are in such a mess and, that any measure taken or suggested is as a direct result of the actions of one K Rudd and his crusaders.

He and labor should never ever be forgiven for the debacle they have created, where by they took a proven working system and turned it on it's head.
Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 6:47:07 AM
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