Anti I consider you a mate.
But am well aware we differ on most things.
We share a concern men are often the victims of a slant towards some women.
Let me tell you then mate who, once again [your offered bet] you are wrong.
In the year of that AWU fraud, it was not todays union but my treasured older one.
The Union asked the police to act.
I tell you no evidence and no allegations ever have been made against the Union.
And never will any emerge, I was just a country delegate then, sick to death of what I and my members saw as a dieing union!
It failed to service us for nearly two years.
We today see a better union, after it Amalgamated with the then Iron workers.
Most AWU but not all office holders went, I belonged to the group who proudly stayed,and saw it grow to todays great union in every way as great as ever it or the iron workers had been and better no stain can be found on its hands in this matter
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Anti if I lie or leave something out to try to blindside you then I am nothing, no better than those supporting the NSW FILTH.
AWU called in the police, quite rightly the donor and the Union had been defrauded.
The police from that day, in the 1990s have investigated and tried to charge some one, they will not charge any one currently or then out side Gillard her then boy friend and his assistant.
You trot well off the track thinking other than that.
Are you aware of the standing of the AWU?
Do you know in truth bosses and whole non-union workplaces invite them in?
To take refuge from *insane militancy of left wing unions*?
Anti it is true, my view, a moral fence has been broken down and trampled by union interference in my party.
You and I need not serve the humble pie Rudd,s return did that for us.
And yes that B%^%dy word solidarity has given refuge to a few products of unwed parents who betray members.
But no fool I will until dead be both high maintenance, a term used to describe trouble makers.
And totally in love with my union, because it so far is the only one moving towards a better workplace for its members.

belly, I know you're sincere mate, but do yourself a favour and have a think about what you're saying.

The Vic police have executed search warrants on Slater and Gordon, specifically looking for all files related to the AWU.

They have executed warrants on the Federal court after they requested files from the Brisbane registry on actions by the AWU that could not be found, but later turned up in the Melbourne registry. Gillard's boss at slater & Gordon, Murphy, is a Judge in the Melbourne registry and one of the documents is still missing - an affidavit by Wayne Hem that he deposited $5000 cash that Wilson gave him from "AWU" funds into Gillard's account. Gillard appointed Murphy.

They have taken evidence from everyone they could who was in anyway related to the AWU or asociated with Wilson and Gillard in the early 90s.

They have taken statements from Ian Campbell, who was AWU Joint Secretary at the time and with Ludwig was party to a court application to recover redundancy money paid to Wilson and others in 95, but not a party to Ludwig's application in 1996 to revoke the order. Wilson kept his redundancy and Ludwig didn't make the revocation public. Gillard was then Brumby's Chief of Staff and running unsuccessfully for the Senate. Cambridge is an honourable man who is now a Fair Work commissioner who has called for a Royal Commission into the AWU since 1996.

The WA police tried to investigate in 1997, but Thiess refused to make a complaint, saying they'd "got what they paid for". It was only when Michael Smith, a former copper himself, was the subject of a heavy-handed assault on his integrity by Gillard when he raised the matter on his radio show that the matter livened up. Smith was contacted by Ralph Blewitt, who gave him statements and documents which Smith used as the basis of a formal complaint to the Victoria Police. They currently have forensic accountants tracing where the nearly half a million that is known to have gone through the AWU-WRA account ended up.

There is also the matter of the Kalgoorlie widows and Orphans fund which Wilson, with the help of Gillard, who spoke to a meeting in Kalgoorlie to lend her credibility as a lawyer (as far as I can work out, she was acting privately, rather than as a Slater & Gordon rep to the AWU) to the Wilson scheme to loot the $million or so in that fund by having it transferred to AWU control. Soon after, a new building was bought for the AWU in Kalgoorlie and the fund dismantled.

It must have been a nightmare for Ludwig and his protege Howes when Smith got the investigation under way after Gillard had already taken office thanks to their support in knifing Rudd. All of a sudden they didn't control Gillard by keeping quiet about what they knew, she had them by the nuts with what she could tell the cops about them in exchange for leniency. Shorten must have known a fair part of all this and he shut up too. Ditto Conroy, Emerson, Combet

Didn't you ever wonder why the Right would be so firmly behind the most far Left person in the Parliament, whose social and economic agenda was so completely opposed to their members' interests?

Having thought about it bit more, I reckon Shorten was looking out for himself by ditching Gillard. He knew that Ludwig and the AWU would be dead once the charges were ready and that would be the end of his power in the Party.

It's a dirty game.

Anti it is a dirty game.
And some true products of unwed parents did defraud the AWU.
But Slater and Gordon was Gillards work place, my defense of AWU does not include her.
Certainly not Wilson, he was a reject, I confronted him out of his state during a time the AWU was trying to get a construction branch up.
Before flying to WA the idiot took 8 non-union workers from a site I worked on, they had been our traffic controllers and walked of with only one lane open and real danger to motorists and workers.
I met that day, for the first time, a GREAT AWU Secretary, now dead, he told me what a fool that bloke was.
No charges and no taint on the AWU comes via that trio, I can not say with certainty what Gillard did but she let the AWU down.
Bloke any grub who takes a union, therefore its members down is a slug.
You are fishing in a dry pond.
If I did not think that I would be at the throat of the people you charge.
While my union is my life that is because it serves those most in need its members not I say proudly its self.

I need to tell more about that day and too why any firm gave such money to a union.
First on that day an old but wise AWU official took me for the first time in my life in to the unions local head office.
Secretary on hearing just how dangerous my site had been left, blew up.
A man head and shoulders above some he that day, saw those man never returned to that job.
See such was their stupidity they stole their bosses trucks, refusing , without being owed a cent,to return them for no reason.
In WA at the time of the donations, union militancy was crippling industry.
Not normally AWU coverage industry wanted a choice and still do, between militancy and a union that will talk before kicking in the walls.
In my view Wilson was in the wrong union he and at least his grubby mate are born criminals.
That day he, without even telling us he was on site put all our lives at risk and stopped a job that needed to be finished before dark.
Plant stopped and operators Marshalled traffic for 6 hours until THE UNION arranged help to finish the job.