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Where is the REAL problem with federal Labor - The Prime Minister or her Party ?
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Posted by o sung wu, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 10:34:50 PM
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http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/gillards-fall-is-far-bigger-than-labors-20130619-2ojdv.html
o sung wo well as you know I live on the other side of the fence. I need say nothing, the link reminds us all. But no difficult task as it is truth will and must, out. It is both, the evidence is in the link. Let us be honest, even on your side once, Kevin Rudd stood out. His removal uncovered old wounds. I believe your side of politics has its grub,s and thieves. We however in putting our party in the hands of unions,are quite ill. Brian Burk, your once referred to Rex Jackson, The current flood of filth from NSW. a PM unloved and unwanted and the avoidance of reform, stalled by those with the most to have removed from them, power. Yet your side gave us crimes in power minister and police commissioner in QLD. We need a team not so blind they took Rudd, and gifted us a woman who lies. It is proved by her survival we must agree ,your answers to both questions is both. Yet even now Rudd is out of the union/power brokers mold and could win. Posted by Belly, Thursday, 20 June 2013 8:43:54 AM
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The problem with the modern day labor party is that the top job is not what it would appear, as they, the PM are a mere puppet, as their strings are being pulled by the faceless men behind the scenes.
You know a party has lost it's way, when not only do these faceless men replace a popularly elected leader, but also ignore voters wishes by leaving a dud PM in place. Posted by rehctub, Thursday, 20 June 2013 1:00:05 PM
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The problem is Labor is on the nose, they get the blame for everything negative that happens. Companies moving hundreds of jobs overseas, businesses closing, not stopping the economic refugees, power and water bills going sky high you name it rightly or wrongly Labor to most people is the reason for all these things.
To that add the political scandals (state and federal) people have just had enough. To a lot it has got to the point where ANYBODY not necessarily could do a better job BUT they could not do a worse job. It has even negated the saying the evil you know is better than the evil you don't know. Posted by Philip S, Thursday, 20 June 2013 1:41:19 PM
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Where is the REAL problem with federal Labor - The Prime Minister or her Party?
Both actually. I read an interesting article which described Rudd as popular with the voters and Juliar popular with the caucus. and together they made a strong team. However, after the first few debacles, when Rudd's popularity was dropping, the caucus decided to drop him and put in place Juliar, who on a one to one basis was very popular with the caucus, but had no clue as how to deal with the public, that things started to go really wrong. Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 20 June 2013 2:28:09 PM
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politics over policy is one of Labour's main downfall. Admittingly the Liberals do it to however it did not lead to 48000 illegal immigrants and over 1000 drownings. politics over policy has seen the wastage of a huge surplus into great debt because Labour thought they could bribe electorate while sending the country broke. politics over policy by somehow conning a few gullibe people that taxing carbon was going to change the climate. The list goes on and on and on
Posted by runner, Thursday, 20 June 2013 2:53:28 PM
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What is the REAL problem with Labor ? The PM herself ? Or the parliamentary party that's ostensibly resolutely behind her ? Is it, the corrosive presence of MR Rudd, always stealthily loitering close by in her wake ?
Somehow, I just can't accept it's Ms Gillard herself ! After all, with all her foibles, and imperfections, she stood-up against all the vitriolic accusations and the fierce pummelling, at the hands of the LNP. After which, she returned in kind, at 'twice the velocity', leaving those opposite, stunned, dazed and staggering, particularly one in the personage of Mr Tony Abbott, who seemed confused and bewildered...?
Pause for a moment if you will, and consider ? If Ms Gillard was to head up the Coalition, they'd bolt it in I'm sure, come the election in September ? There is simply no doubt whatsoever, Ms Gillard, personifies strength and premiership ? Further, she is probably the strongest individual sitting in Federal Parliament today !
So if it's not the PM, it must be her Party ? Notwithstanding she has some very capable, smart individuals both in and out of cabinet ? The real problem, Labor's persistently plagued by are the various factions that exercise the real power from within. Most of that power emanates from Sussex St, home of the NSW right ? And the NSW right does have an over representation of reprobates and scoundrels !
That only leaves Kevin RUDD Esq ? Former PM 'emeritus', and a very bitter (understandably) gentleman. Who, despite all his protestations to the contrary, is absolutely aching to remove Ms Gillard from 'HIS' rightful place ? My only observation, while Ms Gillard wishes to remain PM OR, she's removed by the electorate, Mr Rudd will need to content himself 'bobbing' along in her wake for a very long time. You see Mr Rudd, seeks the Prime Ministership, not for the sake of his country, but as a salve for his immense ego.