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The Forum > General Discussion > Where is the REAL problem with federal Labor - The Prime Minister or her Party ?

Where is the REAL problem with federal Labor - The Prime Minister or her Party ?

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Lexi, my sweet, any one who gets any information from their ABC is bound to be misinformed.

Antiseptic, boy are you kind, & deluded I'm afraid.

I watched Rudd undermining Beasley on their ABC for months in QLD. It was not too difficult to see a slimy, conniving act, presenting a fabricated man.

I see an arrogant fool of a man, with no idea of what he is doing, except he is doing it for no one but himself.

His Copenhagen effort, hellishly expensive on us, was nothing but his application for a high UN post. At no time was there ever any consideration of what would be good for Oz, just a pandering effort to ingratiate himself with the would be rulers of the world.

I can not think of anyone I have ever despised more, & am sure I will never find one.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 12:40:33 PM
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Sorry Rechtub I do not consider much you post as informed comment.
Lexi I too watched Q and A, it is a habit to watch it repeated today.
Could not force myself to watch the whole thing again.
Self righteous fools sent tweets questioning the polls, no intelegent person could do that.
It is clear a reverse sexism was on show the dear old bird who wrote that book, or is she just trying to sell more copy's?
See men yes true, are called names if they share mine and Richos thoughts, not based on Gillards sex but her actions.
Truth over ride,s all our biases, Richo was and is well informed and a very good minister.
Before some one else does I will admit, he went out under a scandal involving prostitutes.
Yet bank on it he remains one of our very best number crunchers and feel the air people.
The plaintive charges against those working their guts out to save our party.
The claims of anti woman/sexism , ignore willfully Gillards often used anti male habits.
In the end woman/man/God or Devil SHE CAN NEVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES WIN AN ELECTION.
Those of us who love the party should not be slandered because they try to avoid the Gillard fox trot in to Lake Burly Grifin
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 1:46:19 PM
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Lexi,

Your paranoia is showing.

"the fact of the media concocting stories about the Gillard government and fabricating quotes attributed to anonymous sources. Anyone of any intelligence can see through that."

Considering that different news organisations are all coming up with the same information from their confidential sources, even the ones not associated with News Corp, anyone with an IQ more than a squirrel would realise that they are not all lying.

It looks as though Juliar might well hold onto the leadership and steer Labor to a record defeat. A trophy to sit with record debt, and record illegal immigration.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 1:46:33 PM
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Gentlemen,

I'd like to quote from a recent
link that I've just come across on the web
that summarises the current political
situation:

The author states "the Coalition has had
a campaign of destruction, involving lies,
fear mongering and unproven allegations to
smear members and supporters of the government."

As we know, "It's been written that Abbott has
been a most successful Opposition leader.
By that, it is meant that his opposition to almost
everything and his unproven smear campaign has
held the government back in the opinion polls."

Does Mr Abbott deserve the opinion poll rating he's
been given? asks the author. "I would have enormous
respect for an Opposition leader who played a clean
game. Who challenged a government's policies and
pointed out their flaws, who provided alternative
policies that won broad support. Abbott has not played
that kind of game and yet he's got a higher score in
the polls. Something is wrong here and there must be
consequences."

Of course the Main Stream Media (MSM), shock jock fodder,
and even comedy shows have contributed greatly.

We're now told that nasty, negative, nay saying, Mr Abbott
has become, nice Mr Abbott, in the dark blue suit, white shirt,
blue tie. This, as the author points out should be a
WTF moment? Can this chameleon be trusted?

"For almost three years Abbott has used a wrecking ball
strategy designed to bring down the government as quickly
as possible. It has been a campaign not very different
to the tactics Mr Abbott used to dominate and destroy the student
union at Sydney University, supposedly riddled with
communists. Mr Abbott has failed. The government is still
there, damaged but still afloat."

"Mr Abbott is rewarded with a higher position in the
opinion polls than the PM, who in the meantime has
soldiered on, introducing some world first legislation, and
social reforms."

Something is indeed wrong, and it will become clear after
September 14th and as the author points out, there will
be consequences to follow, especially for the creators
of these polls - the Main-Stream-Media (MSM).
Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 2:20:24 PM
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Dear Hasbeen,

I prefer to listen to Tony Jones, Jonathan Holmes,
Barrie Cassidy, Kerry O'Brien, Ann Summers,
just to name a few, to Andrew Bolt, Alan Jones,
Piers Achermann, Gerard Henderson, et al.
I prefer facts to media beat-ups and objective
opinions to lies, fear-mongering, and unproven
allegations and smear tactics.
But I understand that not everyone does.

To each his/her own.
Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 2:27:34 PM
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It will be a bad day if Abbott and his mob get into power in Canberra because they will take away all the help and assistance the Labour Party gives the people who are not very rich, and have to pay rent and other expences. Also because the world is such a mess many of the helpless boat people will risk everything to try to sail to this huge country (and there is plenty of room for millions of more people here!!) for a much safer and much better life.

There is nothing wrong with the Prime Minister or her cabinit or anyone in the Labour Party, except Rudd the Dudd. I do feel sorry that he was dumpted, but he acted like a Diktator, and in a free country like beautiful Australia there is no place for a Diktator weather they are from the Labour or the Liberal Partys. I think they might lose maybe and if they do lose it will be because of all the trouble that Rudd the Dudd has, and is causing, I think?
Posted by misanthrope, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 3:02:39 PM
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