Good evening to all of you, who've been kind enough to contribute to this Topic. By the sound of all the speculation and rumours that are emanating out of Canberra this afternoon, there may well be a change of the Labor leadership as early as later on this evening ?

For my part, I suppose I should again remind you all ('fess up' if you like),that as the individual who inadvisably should be condemned as the originator of such a contentious Topic, given the critical immediacy of what's occurring at this moment in the Nation's Capital.

That said, thank you all for being so terrific and supporting the several Topics I've introduced on the Forum. I've going to have a rest and leave both OLO and the Forum, due entirely to my 'black', canine companion. Thank you.

I'll give anyone 100:1 who wants to back Rudd. GY can put you in touch with me after you lose.

Wow!
glad nobody took up the bet...

I guess the idea of losing power was just too much for some.

Interesting times.

Hi Antieptic,

So I suppose a September 14 election is off. The question now is - will Rudd try to take as long as constitutionally possible to prepare for an election, i.e. go late - or go early ?

I think we could be in for even longer campaign than we thought. Christ help us.

Early October. But I;m not silly enough to bet anybody 100:1 on it ;)

Joe

Perhaps August 24th.

Gday Joe,
I'd be fascinated to know how the vote went. I'm sure that my analysis of Gillard's plan is correct. Rudd must have made someone a better offer, or they negotiated one with the white collar unions. Perhaps Joe de Bruyn, of the Shoppies?

Or perhaps Shorten decided that he doesn't really care whether she brings down Ludwig when the cops catch up with her, because he has his wife and mother-in-laws impeccable feminist credentials to give him a leg up with the white collar unions. I wonder how much of the time spent in organising the spill was because of Shorten doing deals with those unions?

It's instructive that Joe Ludwig (Bill's son) has quit, but Shorten hasn't...

Just read in the SMH it was Shorten. In the end he must have worked out that there wasn't much left for him in the support of the AWU.

Interesting times ahead for Howes and Ludwig.