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The Boston Bombing & the Second Amendment (Guns) - Is there any relationship ?
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Posted by o sung wu, Thursday, 18 April 2013 11:20:15 PM
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JayofMelbourne.I suggest you look at the real scientific evidence here.http://www.ae911truth.org/ Scroll down and see ref to the Sydney Morning Herald and the Melbourne Age showing."Experts Speak Out."
This site demonstates scientifically that the WTC Towers and WTC 7 were 100% controlled demolition. Posted by Arjay, Thursday, 18 April 2013 11:30:37 PM
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o sung wu, "Your illustration of a terminal located on the charge counter being easily seen by the public"
No I didn't say open to the public. Are you aware that the firearms licence is noted on the drivers licence? And no again, to there always being a trail. I have a lot of sympathy for the police. But there is no avoiding the lack of security of the details of licensed firearms ownership. Worse, the firearms registries have yet to solve a case, they burn up resources that should be used collaring crims. Overseas, Canada for instance, the firearms registries were found to be wasteful white elephants. As well, the police have at least in one State been penetrated by a close contact of an OMG. That was in the papers. o sung wu, "I for one will never truly understand, their need of that all important 2nd Amendment right ? The paramount safety of a child, is far more important than my right to a F/A" That is a false dilemma. Returning to the subject of the thread, there is no evidence of who committed this bombing act of terrorism, or why. However, in a probably unrelated event, a Mississippi man has been arrested for the act of terrorism in sending letters with suspected ricin poison to US President Barack Obama and other leaders. We should all be concerned at the way the media sensationalises acts of terrorism, including terrorist acts involving firearms. The crimes need to be reported, but the drama and speculation and eventual publicity for every aspect of the offender's life and views are going over the top and can easily bring on copycats. Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 18 April 2013 11:50:33 PM
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Dear onthebeach,
Now you are being a dill. For you to claim databases can be accessed by the ordinary serving member “without leaving a trace of his query” was so much in the vein of your own words they bear repeating again. “Obviously you just make things up as you go, hoping that no-one will as the obvious questions.” My own knowledge is not only the news but my cousin who is an instructor within Vicpol. The message about inappropriate use of the database is hammered into new recruits, as are the consequences of misuse. Even the simple act of not logging off can trash a career. And now o sung wu has seen fit to spell it out for you. Time to drop it my friend. Dear Raw Mustard, The Israelis are masters at black operations so a small teaser on a Jewish news service is to be expected. Zero credibility though. As to your inane question about whether a perpetrator with a machine gun firing into the assembled crowds would have killed more people before being stopped is patently unintelligent hogwash. Look how many the Aurora shootings claimed in under 7 minutes or the 650 rounds and over 300 law enforcement officers including SWAT teams it took to subdue the North Hollywood shooters. Posted by csteele, Friday, 19 April 2013 12:19:10 AM
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csteele,
The problem is that you are winging it and have no idea. I have already given an easy, non-traceable way of accessing the information which is through a normal drivers licence check, where the firearms ownership appears automatically. I have also referred to other avenues which have not been dispelled by what o sung wu has written. Maybe o sung wu might date and source his knowledge (his observation or others?) of the operation of the registry and management of firearms licence information. The simple notion that a cop needs such information before visiting a home or stopping a car means that the information is provided automatically, whether he wants it or not, and matched with the home addresses. Where the data is so widespread any assurance of confidentiality is laughable. Has your cousin mentioned any management controls specific to firearms registration and firearms licence data to you other than the general penalties that apply to loss/publication/misuse of information? Do try not to have me rolling on the floor in gales of laughter by pretending that there are regular independent audits of the management and access to such data. For starters, a common complaint of licensed owners is that the information held by the registry is wrong and not up to date. Again, returning to the subject of the thread, there is no information from the investigation of the subject bombing that could suggest any of the BS claims of links with gun control. That is just speculative gossip and muck raking. Posted by onthebeach, Friday, 19 April 2013 12:44:43 AM
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@ csteele
Interesting you should mention the Israelis, csteele. http://rt.com/usa/police-israel-investigation-boston-009/ Why? And please do share your knowledge of Israeli blackops. Oh and I wasn't claiming my link to be fact, just as I posted. Food for thought! Now you're trying to tell me that you'd rather face a hidden explosive device than a mad man with a gun when you have one yourself in order to defend yourself? Are you nuts? And just on the Hollywood Shooters. Quoted from, Wikipedia. """ In October 1993, Larry Eugene Phillips and Emil Decebal were arrested in Glendale, northeast of Los Angeles, California, for speeding. A subsequent search of their vehicle—after Phillips surrendered with a concealed weapon—found two semi-automatic rifles, two handguns, more than 1,600 rounds of 7.62×39mm rifle ammunition, 1,200 rounds of 9×19mm Parabellum and .45 ACP handgun ammunition, radio scanners, smoke bombs, improvised explosive devices, body armor vests, and three different California licence plates. Initially charged with conspiracy to commit robbery, both served one hundred days in jail and were placed on three years' probation. After their release, most of their seized property was returned to them. """ Both served one hundred days in jail? After their release, most of their seized property was returned to them? And you want to claim guns are at fault? And Eagan Holmes was in the care of a shrink and was on psychiatric medication. But it was the guns fault? Sure you are, righty ho, NOT! @ o sung wu """ Dr Savage must lead a dreary life, of seeking out evidence of where the US is going wrong. """ There are lots of doom "Profits" in America, o sung wu. It would seem to be a very lucrative business over there? Posted by RawMustard, Friday, 19 April 2013 1:43:53 AM
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Actually, I'm not a fan of Dr Savage. What I do like about him, is some of his comments about government, in fact all governments per se. The appearance they the government wish to regulate and control, all facets of our lives with the notional perpetuation of larger and larger governments, rather than less official intrusion into the way we live, and bring up our children, I find quite plausible and cogent ?
To me personally, he epitomizes the typical 'angry man'. My question JAY O M., is why does he enjoy such a loyal and dedicated listening audience ? When clearly what he needs to do, is breathe in the fresh air, smell the flowers, watch the enduring beauty of birds in flight, and take a moment or two to relax, really relax completely.
Seemingly, Dr Savage must lead a dreary life, of seeking out evidence of where the US is going wrong. Rather than looking for evidence of what the country is doing right ? Sure, many would describe him as a Shock Jock a Redneck etc. Yet many of the listeners who ring in, speak quite well and have some intelligent, well thought out and constructive comments to make ? Provided of course Dr Savage will allow them to speak ! Also he can be very boorish and straight out rude at times, particularly if you dare to disagree with what he says ? Ah well, he's probably paid very very well, so someone must like his style ?