The US has a long history of domestic terrorism going back to the early 1800s.

There's always been a lot of hatred in America! And it won't stop with the Boston bombing attack.

G'day; BELLY; LEXI; SUSEONLINE & ARJAY...

Thank you LEXI and ARJAY for the links you both provided me with, they're interesting both of them. These false leads the US seem to have a proclivity to promote are a worry for sure, ARJAY ?

Perhaps, I've not been specific enough, with either the title or substance of this Topic initially ? I was not trying to draw any link, significance, or comparison, between the new F/A laws or the Marathon Bombings. I've not got sufficient facts in which to do so, other than what's contained in the media.

It was (in my opinion) the inane, intemperate remarks uttered by a so called educated, right wing commentator, with a listening audience of circa 11 million people. Where he stated inter alia, not once but several times, words to the effect '...no government is going to take my firearms from me...' ? This was said during his long diatribe, against both the President and the way he's handling the 'Boston Marathon Bombing'.

Whether he (Dr Savage) was attempting to link the F/A's issue, and the Bombing matter together, I don't know ? It was his PUBLIC intransigency, against the Firearm Laws, with his challenging statement, that worries me. We all know there are many gun totting mentally ill people possessing an arsenal of weapons in the US. And these people are almost being encouraged (by DR Savage) to flout any new F/A law the government seeks to introduce.

That sure would worry me if I lived in the United States. I reckon you and I would be on the same page here LEXI, and my old mate BELLY ? The thing is, there are millions and millions of lovely well balanced folk in America, why can't they all get together and DESPITE this 2nd Amendment nonsense, for their children's sake, and toughen up the ownership laws for Firearms ? For the preservation of ALL children, ALL of them ?

o sung wu, "there now lies an electronic 'trail' if you like"

No there isn't. You can look it up on the desktop in the station. No-one watches and no-one cares. Routine stuff. Any idiot can save it to a mobile device. You can check in-car. The standard driver's licence scan does it for you anyhow.

Again, this has nothing to do with the bombing. It is speculation, conspiracy and hysteria.

just adding to Susies predictable rant

'Whether that sort of behaviour is fueled by a hate of guns, a hate of a God, or a hatred of locals etc remains to be seen

Hi there BANJO; HASBEEN and ONTHEBEACH...

The question of storage has always reared it's head. Though in NSW and VIC they require containers to be made of specific material and locked in an approved way, the average crook will generally gain entry if he wishes. Bolts and munitions are to be stored separately.

And you're correct when you state BANJO, the average rifle, one used in rural situations are not as attractive to crooks as one that can be modified, shortened, or suppressed, etc. But I hasten to add, any firearm is preferred to no firearm. In my working days, the preferred weapon of choice were shotguns, either single or side by side, but not so much U and O's or self-loading, though an 870P was pretty good or similar even the fantastic old Ithaca 37DS, also in slide action was pretty worthwhile too ! Neither had chokes, so I could only imagine what one felt like (felt recoil) with it's barrel shortened ?

From my experience, crooks are paying good money for imported arms, particularly wheel-guns rather that semi-auto's. Though, again I hasten to add, a gun is a gun, some more desirable then others. We knocked this bloke and his 'girl' of, and she was packing an old TPH in .25 cal. She claimed it wouldn't work ? Yet, she had one up the spout, and it was cocked ready to rock n' roll ! They have a trigger pull of around 3lbs when cocked, yet she had the thing stuffed in her back pocket of her jeans - with a trigger pull of just 3lbs, amazing ? A very lucky young lady, and so were we too ? Her boyfriend knew nothing about pistols either, so he had his girlfriend, carry it for him by all accounts.

Often too gentlemen, when discussing F/A's you tend to see and hear quite a bit of what's called 'ballistic masturbation', among crooks and many young blokes - very interesting I can tell you.

o sung wu

You are right to say that criminals, even the amateur ones, get their guns imported. Besides, they like 'gangsta' looking pistols that worry the uninitiated.

The unusual (and it is uncommon!) theft from a licensed owner never feature in crime (apart from the original theft and the offender keeping it unlicensed). That is not me saying that. It is from police statistics. The very few long arms stolen from legal owners are expensive high quality items, keepsakes, ie 'safe queens'. Collector value (overseas?).

What is not funny is that it is the recreational drugs consumed by well-off professionals and others with $$ to blow that support the drug syndicates that import the guns.

Police must get exasperated with the smart-A middle class recreational drug users who are responsible for the very large profits in the drug trade, yet the mealy mouthed middle class educated elite SOBs talk up 'gun control'! There would be very few guns used by criminals in Australia if it were not for the drug trade.

But none of that has anything to do with the bombings in the US.