"no different than say on the beach, or any of a dozen more conservatives here"

A sit down and a glass of cold water for Belly. New glasses and a gentle reminder that many people are not rusted on to a political party or ideology.

Of course to the few signed up and sworn soldiers of ideological purity everyone, simply everyone who expresses a different point of view is by definition one of the hated 'other' side.

"It's them or us", eh Belly?

Why not Turnbull?

Good question Belly.

This is why we should be giving big Mal the big flick:

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=14546#250928

on the beach, sorry but as you judge me, I reserve the right to judge you.
Old Aussie tradition.
We call it fair go mate.
You are not alone in seeking untruths to throw at Labor.
Just however reconsider your rant, in answering my charges after looking at about a thousand posts in ten threads, at least, After you review my post history here flogging Labor, as a member.
I did not my mate Ludwig follow your link.
I can tell you this, save face now, back of on the Turnbull is a Labor plant thing.
His wealth is not stopping him he will lead and gut busting laugh creating, it will be me trying to pull him down and his detractors telling me they always knew he was brilliant.

Suppose you coached a kids footy team, it was out in front and a win in the grand final looked clear.
Captain was the best player, but hogged the ball.
He by not passing cost the team trys every game.
Always scored 2 trys.
But gave two away by poor defense.
Rest of team?
Unhappy ,you knew two good players may leave and that you had a replacement.
Crowd loved him his difference was perfect.
Ludwig mate save face, do not join the caravan of bias and unknowing.
Turnbull will break my heart but hewill lead your party and this country.
US ALP FILTH TOO.
Proud of that folks, the sheer bigotry against half this country?
Never knew Queensland was such a big place!

There is one other which would bring the coalition to the fore and that is MR Turnbull, a very respected politician, and beaten by one vote at a coalition revolt. The winning vote for Mr Abbott came from a man who was later politically raped, and used as a pawn in a deceitful act to destabilise a sitting govt; Mr Abbott does not enjoy the respect of the masses, only a few diehards that would vote for a dog on a chain, rather than vote for an opposing party .
Mr Abbott has hid supporters within govt; who say he is a kind , and gentle man, who loves his wife and daughters. To find this sort of compassion outside of parliament is thin on the ground. Women’s issues will come to the front , as abortion, fertility, and contraception are the most important issues for AU women. In the past he has stood by his religious teachings and condemned all of these issues . How will they smooth the lumps to get women on side. Could be a tough ask.
Turnbull on the other hand is lurking in the background , and a proven woman’s man and very well liked by 50% of coalition parliamentarians. He is by far the woman’s choice.
2013 will be an interesting year, to say the least. Will we get the policy break through, the worm, all those important indicators, that show the will of the masses. A sitting govt; with a rails run, and an opposition which has yet to show ambition other than playing in slime. But can change riders at any time . Who will be AU’s next victor in the political stakes.

579>> Turnbull, very well liked by 50% of coalition parliamentarians<<

Not to mention 100% of Labor parliamentarians.......lol

SOG Gday ever enter your mind your views may be wrong?
Thought not.
Mine are often so, my secrete reason for starting this thread, SO I AM TOLD!
Was to undermine Liberals, sneaky bloke am I not?
Getting those polls rigged 63%, how did I do that?
Labors primary hovers around 36, Two party preferred 48, at worst.
Now lets me get me crimson boots of, need every toe.
Greens, every one of the little charmers want Turnbull!mm.
Labor every poor lost sole wants Turnbull?
Lets see put the left boot back on, that them commo blokes so not using it, 12 for greens 36 for Labor is!
Bleeding 48!
Told you them Labor blokes is shifty.
15 in every hundred must be Labor voters hiding in the Liberals.
AH gee hope not!
Turnbull will not be afraid of some of his detractors, if they vote like they think, then by mistake are as likely to vote green as anything.