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Why not Turnbull?

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579 in fact Abbott even by his own words, is not interested in the subject.
It however presents ample opportunity to frighten the chooks.
His popularity was built on that.
Scare campaigns.
Enough fall for it for a time, but his chook shed is falling down.
Global Warming and carbon tax are his mortal enemy's.
As soon as, very soon, polls show real concerns about Global warming, Abbott will be dumped.
Turnbull, can freely dump any policy he made, that is not supported including GW.
This ensures, in the name of good politics, Abbott goes Turnbull returns.
PS if Rudd is not put back in his job he will leave federal Parliament before the election at it is more likely
Posted by Belly, Friday, 18 January 2013 3:14:18 PM
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I reckon you are right, he would not know what economics was. Abbott's sole purpose was to force an election by the end of 2010.
Two years later he is lost, he doesn't know what to do next.
Turnbull is their only hope, if they are fair dinkum.
The carbon tax was an enormous fizzer, i believe that was the end for Abbott.
Can you imagine Abbott and the worm, when he doesn't have someone writing the answers for him.
Not even a real liberal. Hard to understand how they thought Abbott could be a statesman, and look after our interests.
It is incredible how strong Gillard is.
I see Abbott as a weakling, certainly not PM material.
Keating called him a political illiterate, i Reckon he was right.
Certainly not in favor with women, a powerful force with issues to protect.
Rudd may be looking for the UN position, for two years
Posted by 579, Saturday, 19 January 2013 11:52:06 AM
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http://www.news.com.au/national/federal-mp-peter-shack-convicted-of-100000-fraud/story-fndo4e3y-1226557084455
579 the link is to show Liberals have rats too.
I think, honestly, as many as we have.
But having said that we need to talk.
An election is many things.
It is not every voter giving balanced and well, thought out opinins.
Some walk in to the booth, not even having bothered to read the how to vote, with great passion, and silliness, vote informal, while thinking they support one or the other.
Gillard is not what you think.
She will pull off a miricule if she wins, only against Abbott is that possible.
Both sides of politics know, a very big slice of the electorate is not changing its mind, made up long ago.
Men, in big numbers, do not want Gillard.
Just as Turnbull will bring back passion and commitment to his side, other than Gillard, if well chosen can too.
For Labor.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 19 January 2013 3:06:52 PM
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Belly It's hard to say if Abbott will see an election or not.
I am pretty sure Gillard will be there, can't see Rudd making a play, could be wrong. Either way it's the party, what it is all about.
Abbott would be a vicious man, and not to be trusted. Agendas behind agendas. Like Newman a radical. And now he wants the people to tell him what to do next. The people of QLD never got what they thought they were getting.
Parliament back in a couple of weeks, see if the mood has changed or it's the same crap being thrown around. Hasn't done Abbott any good. People have had enough of his tactics, time to come clean if he can, and play politics.
Posted by 579, Sunday, 20 January 2013 8:42:48 AM
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579!
Mate yes!
It is the party, the dreams, wishes , the things our followers want.
The very core of our existence is to be the party of fair go mate.
The one that did as we did put pensions up.
Say sorry, to both the stolen generation and victims , SOME OF WHOM are white, that dreadful era was the same that took poor whites from parents.
And saw kids in care raped.
For me and you it is the party.
MATE not for everyone.
We are running just behind, in a two horse race, both horses are lame
KNOW my friend we will be flogged for decades over our mess, not policy's, Torys will adopt most.
Swinging voters will flock to Turnbull.
And our chance die.
Hope Abbott survives but face the truth, we have to stop burying our faults .
You view of Gillard is with rose colored glases, she has damaged our party.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 21 January 2013 7:03:11 AM
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Belly and 579, over three weeks ago I posted a message that contained the following:

"There is an old Australian saying that I love. I love it because it is always true. Stated simply, you should never believe your own b*llsh*t! And I am gratified that Lexi and the leftwing Fairfax press and all the Labor supporters who repeat the claim, “"I have never voted Liberal in my life but I could cope with Turnbull as our PM." are guilty of this silly and un-Australian mistake.

Do you Labor voters really believe that true-blue Liberal voters will see you as being altruistic and offering helpful suggestions to help us get the Liberal Party back into gov’t? Or, is it more likely that we just smile at your stupidity?

Sam (de Brito) has painted Tony Abbott as ‘vulgar’. How does he characterise the Labor Party and Ms Gillard? Just imagine what the likes of Sam de Brito would say if the Howard/Costello or an Abbott Gov’t did the following:

1. Increased the retirement age for women factory workers from 60 to 67!
2. Cut $50 million out of the health budget by denying chemotherapy drugs to Australians.
3. Forced single mothers back into the workforce when their youngest child reaches six years of age!

I challenge Sam de Brito and any other Labor supporter to defend that trifecta."

Three weeks later you are still making the same mistakes. You believe your own b*llsh*t, and you don't have the guts to answer the definitive three policy questions above!

Instead of making making cheap ad hominem sttacks on Abbott, why can't you stop laying claim to the moral high ground and face the facts!

Geoffrey Kelley
Posted by geoffreykelley, Monday, 21 January 2013 10:46:48 AM
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