Continued
Now back to Turnbul.

While I Still regard him as a strong leader, I am not convinced he would make a good leader for the libs, however, if he jumped ship to your lot, you would romp it in.

But the difference between us belly, is that for me, it's not about winning at any cost

So you can take offense to that if you wish, you can even pick up stumps and play that old, it's not fair crap that we are quite honestly getting a tad sick of.

Your call, but I will always welcome you back mate.

As for 579, I have this to say.
.............
Full stop!

What a pack of idiotic ranters. A lot to say but it does not add up to nothing, every single piece of dribble is in the past tense.
We have a double poster here, GC & WW are to of the same.
Butch is on one of his, stimulants again.
When will someone say something that is relevant to the wellbeing of Australian society.
We have never been better off, look around you we are doing fine, except qld.
The golden years have passed and will not return no matter how much you try to put spin on it. Just like Abbott living in the past.
This is 2013 so get a grip of yourself and face reality. This year we vote and elect our preferred govt; for the next 4 years. The past will not help you. What we need is policy and we have a coalition that is a policy free zone, and a leader that is newt and can't read.
They have but one hope, and that is to put Turnbull in the chair or else they will be defeated at the hands of a stronger and more resilient opponent.
This govt; has shown extreme courage in the face of the tea party antics, that have taken it on themselves to discredit a sitting govt; and use the judicial system to further their own agenda.

Here, in responses to this thread, are commentators who in truth are lost beyond the depth of their under standing.
As the results of any federal election are in, counted ,tallied.
The two party preferred count is only rarely more than 2% between winer and lost.
This time that is the likely out come.
SO 47/48/in every hundred Australians are as described here?
But in fact the team that fails to win the election, often wins the popular vote.
Trying hard not to become as heated as SOME here, the idea Labor voters are lessor beings, or trying to urge Liberals to swap a Donkey for a Horse is quite descriptive of SOME.
63%
Now get the boots of, GK get some one to count for you.
63 in every hundred say they dislike Abbott.
Every chance exists most if not half are Liberals,
If you insist on a different number it wins my point.
Now in the end, after this election, at least 47 in every hundred Australians, will vote Labor.
Claims that we the 47 are lessor beings are?
SOME here understand
NO take that back about to insult but try not to.
Here in print ample evidence exists SOME do it to them selves, in print.
579 again I try, you with your blind support feed the other side, and in the end target your self.
Labor while far better than these Tea Party types needs to look at its troubles, before defeat.
All good men coming to the aid of the party should not sweep our troubles under the carpet.
If you wish to serve Labor in this year you must put it all on the carpet and demand to know why?
We unlike others must demand better and face truth, we are not going to win by hiding truth

2013 will sort the one with political gumption from the one with political rhetoric, which adds up to policy, isn’t policy what our nation votes on. With out policy we have an empty tank, and no one in their right mind will vote for a party without policy and properly costed.
So what do we have at the moment, a sitting govt; that has laid out a policy for the future of this nation . For a start we have a policy of overhauling the education system , and another of a disability insurance scheam .
Two of the biggest and most important issues facing au to day. A plan to lay out these policies is under way , and costings will be provisioned in the budget.
We have an opposition that has shown contempt for some items legislated , with pledges in blood to scrap these changes , for what reason has never been given, we can only presume it was a knee jerk reaction to smirk at a sitting govt;
This govt has shown some faults, but haven’t they all. No govt will have 100% support from the masses. A hung parliament was always going to be a big challenge and we have pulled through without support from the coalition, who have apparently vowed not to talk politics.
A year of absolute gutter politics has just concluded, with accusations, kangaroo courts, and false claims put to the judicial system. We have had an opposition in desperation, and outright bully tactics invented by overseas politicians to further their own agenda.
cont:-

That breakdown in voters is what you would expect Belly. Apart from a few, like you, who can blame their upbringing & history, voting choice depends on intelligence.

By definition 50% of the population are below average intelligence. Some belligerent twits like 579 are way below, others only a little. The Labor party specialises in fooling this less intelligent segment of the population, & with years of practice, does it well. Those it can't con, it will try to buy.

There is of course a bit of the "birds of a feather" going on. Swanny is obviously going to attract those of rather low intelligence, & Gillard those with a vindictive nasty streak.

Hence we get a split somewhere around average. You only have to analyse the political leanings of the cereal ranters on here to see this obvious truth.

Perhaps the most interesting thing you'll find is that the most one eyed are regularly complaining that those on the other side wont take part in a sensible debate.

When I first came on here, I had no political leanings. I was as likely to vote one way as the other. After some years I find I have developed a leaning to the right, due to the ratbagery of many of the left supporters.

This is where Turnbull comes in. His natural tendencies towards being a conman put him more comfortably in the left basket. 579 is welcome to him.

Sorry hasbeen your posts are well, not helping your image.
Todays are laced with class hate and dribble.
Not even you can believe that.
How offensive can we be here in OLO.
You surely sail close to the wind.
By inferring every Labor voter is a bit short of a quid.
Has it struck you?
You at the head of just a few, every day put your manners your IQ and understanding under the microscope.
I in the sure knowledge time will prove me right put this to you.
Hopefully in terms you understand, writing slowly old fella.
I started this thread CONVINCED Labor can not win this election.
Armed with the understanding, first hand, the more Liberal Liberals, in particular the rich Sydney North Shore ones, are bitter about?
Abbott,s leadership.
They want Turnbull.
In my view, Labor has two chances of surviving this election.
Both extremely unlikely.
Change its leader now, and hope.
Abbott slipping up.
You clearly are unable to count.
But 63%
Let me tell you this.
IF your party knew just 5% of those who dislike Abbott came from swinging voters Nasty man would go, in days.
Hope you understood some of that .
Smile bloke,go out and look at your day lilleys, mine are better than yours.
Well no0 not really drought still choking me.
PPS my weekend wanderings at markets has bought about strange friendships.
Proudly wearing a union/ALP shirt I was rudely accosted by a woman stall holder.
We are good friends she HATES THE ALP but heads a branch not saying what one, assured me Liberals are begging for Turnbull even through channels in the party.
Do not eat her pickles, deadly stuff.