They say a week is a long time in politics, but it has taken two weeks to make most of the pro-Turnbull comments redundant!

The ALP continues to stumble from one disaster to another and in the latest poll Abbott is only two points (41 : 39) behind Gillard as preferred PM.

The Libs are in a great position on the two-party preferred basis.

Why is this so? Well, Gillard has shown very bad judgement calling the poll so far out from the election date, but the big negatives are Craig Thomson, union corruption and poor policy choice such as stopping the free computers for school children.

Also, why is Nicola Roxon jumping ship? Could it anything to do wit her role in the AWU fiasco? Will she be forced to give evidence against Julia in a Vic court?

This year is going to be an exciting ride for those of us that love politics :-)

Geoffrey Kelley, Mount Eliza.

Grubby stuff but not unexpected, if you have knowledge of the posters mind set.
Here on clear display,is the mind set of the party we are about to elect.
Inferences and lies dirt bagging innocents and miss treating honesty.
AWU Australian Workers Union, this country's finest union.
Was nothing but a victim.
Not even knowing the miss deeds had taken place.
Gillards then boy friend,his dirt bag mate,and seemingly Gillard, ran a scam.
Yes a so called AWU fund that union never saw a cent or knew about.
It was first to inform the Police after it found out.
This much is true.
Labor by its own hand will be defeated.
Reality is the right bower that always beats the left.
No need exists to rant.
To breed pure hate.
CONSIDER THIS, VERY NEARLY HALF OUR COUNTRY IS BEING INSULTED BY MANUFACTURED JUNK, LIKE THAT POST.

Dear Belly,

You must live in a glass bubble manufactured by the socialist left! You say, "AWU Australian Workers Union, this country's finest union.
Was nothing but a victim.
Not even knowing the miss deeds had taken place."

Let me appraise you of the facts. Bill Shorten was a senior executive of the AWU and was living with his girlfriend of the time, Nicola Roxon, empolyed by Maurice Blackburn & Co.

Gillard was supposed to be the solicitor for the AWU and was a partner in Slater and Gordon, but in 1992 she betrayed her client and set up bank accounts using the AWU name without warning her paying client, the AWU.

When, in 1995, the AWU discovered her duplicitous behavior they took their business and all S&G's files to Maurice Blackburn and Roxon took over the files. Her boyfriend, Shorten, hushed the whole episode up and the AWU did not publicise the facts for fear that the publicity would be damaging.

Any action taken by the police against Gillard and S&G will possibly include asking Maurice Blackburn for their files taken from S&G.

Therefore I predict that Roxon may be required to give evidence against Gillard and S&G.

Belly, you cannot deny these facts. They do not look good for Gillard and her gov't.

Regards,

Geoffrey Kelley

Mad Hatter stuff.
Not unexpected, it took one single post to see you need help.
47 YEARS.
that is how long I was a member, an informed member of that union.
Lets end this, I had said I would not talk to you.
Doing so is wasting my efforts, your bigotry is fixed.
So too your failure to understand any thing requiring an IQ higher than two numbers.

Dear Belly,

By now you and I are the only ones left reading this thread. I want you to know how sincerely I feel for you as an old fashioned trade unionist.

We are about the same age I reckon. I am 67 years old. My great-grandfather was an English Methodist from Cornwall. I was taught that the unionism grew out of the Methodist chapels. My great-grandfather was a “boss” as he was a self-employed carpenter and builder. He actively supported the trade unions and was a leader of the SA Labor Party in the nineteenth century. He was one of the men who set up the Mechanics Institute to help educate working class men.

His son, my grandfather, rejected the ALP after the WW I and we became “Liberals” or conservatives. However, we still believed in and supported the trade unions. When I started out in business I would telephone the old THC for advice on what we now call IR problems. The old unionists would give frank and honest advice to me as an employer which I always took on board. Even today my girls are free to join a union, but they have never bothered as I always treat them above the award conditions.

In your and my lifetime we have seen opportunistic smart guys take over unions and use them as a stepping-stone to further their own careers. I can name them, starting with Gough Whitlam. He came from a wealthy Melbourne family and was educated at Canberra Grammar. He joined the ALP because he could not make it in the Liberal Party. Bill Shorten went to Scotch College in Melbourne, and Nicola Roxon went to MLC, the sister school of my old school, Wesley College. Both were Methodist schools but now are Uniting Church.
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I know how much it distresses you, but men like John Cain (went to Alexander Downer’s old school Geelong Grammar followed by Scotch College) married Nancye (Williams) Cain who was the secretary of the Greythorn Young Libs! They were born and bred to be politicians. John Brumby (Old Melbourne Grammar School), John Thwaites (MGS as well), Rob Hulls (Peninsula Grammar) and the Minister for Silly Walks, Tiny Tim Holding (Haileybury college) all were educated at some of Melbourne’s finest schools.

All these men had one thing in common and that was ambition. Not one of them had the blood of Curtin or Chifley running in their veins. One of my great uncles, Harry Waterman, was a conservative voter but was Ben Chifley’s private secretary and Uncle Harry was devoted to Ben Chifley.

The real problem with the Australian Labor Party is that it is led by men who are not true to the cause! They are opportunistic power grabbers.

Everything I said in my previous post is accurate.

Turnbull will never lead the Liberal Party to the next election, not even if Abbott is run over by a bus!

You know damn well that Gillard was supposed to be representing the AWU in 1992, but she supported (pro bono) her lover and his mates to cheat the AWU, the client she was actually charging to do their legal work! Her professional duty of care was to the AWU and not to her lover and his mates.

You also know damn well that Bill Shorten was a senior officer in the AWU in 1996 when the truth came out about Gillard’s vile treachery to the union.

You also know bloody well that Shorten was living with Roxon when Gillard was living with Wilson.

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