Jay of Melbourne,

Think you're being rather harsh here. As I've said before, one only has to see how Singapore has managed multi-racialism - and whites aren't at the top there.

We are in an historic cycle. Throughout history certain countries have been in ascendance, then they decline, and are replaced by other countries.
WASPS haven't always been on top. China was way up at the top at the time Europe was still in the dark ages.Egypt was also a mighty empire at one time. Seems everyone gets to have a stab at being top dog, not just white people.

Anyway, science mandates that we ALL originated from Africa. That being true, we must all have a touch of colour in our ancestry.

Jay of Melbourne.
It gives me great personal joy, and pride to inform you.
I have never agreed with anything you ever said.
And while I may not be welcome there stand with those you target rather than you.
Have Great Christmas, I am in to my third full on day of it.

Jay, very clever jargonistic clap trap with the "bourgeois WASP commenters" and of course "(the) better connected co-ethnics in the state hierarchy." Jay takes us back 200 years with meaningless dribble "it's the top down re-colonisation of our multi- racial society by the same old WASP vested interests which landed here in 1788." Not content with 200 years Jay then hits us with this little bit of folk history "What's more the available evidence strongly suggests that's exactly what this tiny group of Anglo Saxon colonists from Jutland did in the British Isles all those years ago." and who causes all our problems "it's the WASP elite and their bourgeois supporter base" Please hold off on the gibberish and talk a little sense.

SPQR "<<
No. What I forgot was how lacking your knowledge of the world in general was."
Charming.

Maybe you and Jay should consider joining a group of like-minded 'good ol boys' like the Ku Klux Klan? Seems as though you boys have a lot in common.

Anyway, you all be sure and have a lovely white Christmas like they have back in the old country,
Merry Christmas to you all.

Just a thought, 4th day of my festival.
And going strong.
Folks sharing it with me can point to ancestors in most post ww2 Migration country,s [ my faqmilly].
As much as one side ignores our troubles.
And the other includes all migrants.
Our troubles are very real.

After tomorrow I may post links those on the other side, living in this country on our social security, think of us.
Those of us not believing in ANY GOD, may well ask, is the social disruption bought here by these folk worth it?
In this case is our freedoms in balance with their right to practice a religion that judges us in the name of a non existent God.

Belly,

Re-read your 4th sentence in your second post on this thread and refresh your memory.

To all those who have posted comments on this thread:

In an effort to understand various religions I thought reading their literature would improve my understanding. I was struck by how much of the Koran was similar to the Bible, as is the Book of Mormon.

Why would human beings constantly call out "God is great" as they are killing other human beings? This really puzzled me. I know it is used at the start of prayers, but feel it has lost it's original traditional meaning , and is now used indiscriminately.

To me it is more like blasphemy to invoke the name of their God when killing, torturing, or raping both men, women and children. For instance, the pictures of the justice they meted out to Gaddafi [who deserved to face court justice for his own crimes] brought to mind a picture of a pack of wild animals killing one lone animal. This displays devolution, not evolution in humans.