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Posted by SPQR, Monday, 24 December 2012 9:50:07 AM
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spqr,
This is what you posted: http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=14348&page=0#247742 The reality was that I wasn't in that specific instance commenting on the riot per se. I was commenting on the message that Jayb had received from his mate (as you would have known if you hadn't just been helicoptering around looking for a comment with which to crucify me :) Here is Jayb's original comment: http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5377&page=0#147456 Here is his comment after he contacted centre management - my reply (which you posted out of context in a pathetic attempt to misrepresent my view) is directly underneath: http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5377&page=0#147498 So much for wriggling on the wall...if anyone cares to read the links in this post, it will become obvious who was practicing the deception (hint - it wasn't me) I see you're at the same thing again. I'm not suggesting that facebook pages be interfered with. I'm suggesting that you and your mates, not judge the official line by the rantings of some crank and his mischevous postings on the nebulous forum of facebook. Perhaps you could give some thought to resisting your irksome compulsion to twist other poster's views to suit your attack - Pathetic Posted by Poirot, Monday, 24 December 2012 10:08:55 AM
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"the Muslims should go back to where they belong and take a Suse or a Paul under each arm." Jay if you are a white fella I suggest you have no claim to this land and you hold no title maybe a good idea if you jump into a boat and return from whence you or your ancestors came. What is your claim to this land based on?
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 24 December 2012 10:56:31 AM
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This complex and strange issue will not go away just because some cannot see the issue as well as others.
I can assure posters the extremes, right or left do not have answers But too, minority's on both sides in my view, harm the issue not fix it. ANY BLINDNESS, to both the events and behavior we see from many Muslims, or the clear racism from the other side is not going to change this truth. More Australians would be happy to STOP Muslim Migration, than not. A forgotten truth is MUSLIMS, like Christians, want to convert us. Left, even moderate left, disembowels it self, by trying to love every one deny the very real problems, WORLD WIDE Islamic faith brings with it. HOW could ANY ONE, who ever believed in Karl Marx or true left, today defend a religion that treats its women , even in its Holly book as sex slaves. Condemn me, but look too at the other Muslim, sides sins. SOME privative middle ages like. Posted by Belly, Monday, 24 December 2012 11:05:16 AM
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@Poirot,
<< I see you're at the same thing again. I'm not suggesting that facebook pages be interfered with. I'm suggesting that you and your mates, not judge the official line by the rantings of some crank and his mischevous postings on the nebulous forum of facebook.>> You seem to have some crossed wires here. I have no where implied that you suggested that me and/or my “mates” interface with anyone’s Facebook. My point was rather that if the fatwa appeared on the groups Facebook –as is my understanding – there would not have been open access for “some joker” or “some crank” to list or change anything . Only a confidant would have had authority to list/edit. Now with regard to your favourite gripe/victim-hood badge. The key issue is that when you had good cause to criticise the antics of persons representing Islam. You chose to hover in the corner and tut-tut about anyone who raised a whimper. That is the key. The crux. The issue. Your going on about my supposed misrepresentation is merely an attempt to muddy the water--and make yourself feel all aggrieved. That said, I wont dwell on it anymore. As I can see you are getting wound up .And I would not be good form to have you fly-off the handle when Santa comes down the chimney and attack his throat. So it's all the best to you & your family and (a very PC) season greetings! _____________________________________ @Jayb Cheers to you too. My Christmas/New Year wish is that Poirot-2013 might be half as insightful as you have been in 2012. Posted by SPQR, Monday, 24 December 2012 11:17:34 AM
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Belly,
Real Marxists/ Leftists don't defend Islam and they're harshly critical of the massive Third World immigration into the West and the war on Whites being waged by the WASP bourgeoisie, Poirot, Paul and Suse aren't Leftists they're right wingers, they support state capitalism, and subscribe to the same staunchly conservative Christian values espoused by the likes of Abbott and Rudd. Paul, I've said repeatedly on this forum that when the U.K and Ireland are ethnically cleansed of non Britons and non Irish I'll be on the first plane over there, agreed, this isn't my country and I'd gladly renounce it in favour of living among my own kind. See an Afghan can go to his part of the world and spend his entire life seeing only his kin, living according to his traditions and speaking only his language, so can Japanese, Chinese, Nigerians and any other group you can think of, except of course Europeans. So it's Africa, for the Africans, Asia for the Asians but White countries are for EVERYBODY. Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 24 December 2012 12:11:00 PM
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<<how many non-Muslim immigrants WANT to emigrate to those Muslim countries?>>
Well, for starters, I’d suggest a couple of million south Asian contract workers –who form an under class of serfs –but enjoy few of the privileges and absolutely no prospect of permanent residency!
<<What rubbish to suggest that Muslim countries wouldn't be upset if we blocked them from coming here.>>
I am not necessarily suggesting we put a blanket ban on all Muslims . However, I am suggesting very strongly that OZ as a sovereign nation --and the last time I checked we were still a sovereign nation--has a right to determine its own immigration policy. And I doubt ANY of your "Muslim countries" would dispute that.
<<We would encourage more unrest here in Australia amongst those Muslim people who already live here>>
So let’s see now, if they don’t get their way they will riot and carry placards calling for “All Who Insult The Prophet To Be Behead” ,or even, seek to blow-up Holsworthy army base –NO, we would NOT want to provoke that would we!
<<What about other countries who do take their share of migrants from these countries? Would you expect them to take more>>
Now your dredging up the old furphy that if we don't roll over and do what every outsiders want they want love us anymore.Well, here's some news for you, OZ is one of HANDFUL of countries that accepts immigrants.
(accept here means granting permanent residency to –as opposed to allowing them to stop over awhile on their way to somewhere else)
<<You forget that we have to live in the wider world community and not in isolation in Australia>>
No. What I forgot was how lacking your knowledge of the world in general was.