runner,

"We do need more education for Islamic apologist..."

It appears that you need more education in Christian ethics.

I hasten to add that the likes of Lexi displays in every one of her average posts far more Christian charity and humility than I've noted in the entirety of your posting history - at least since I've been participating on this forum.

You would do well to study her attitude.

Belly one of your own, born 25th October 1943 in the village of Matrite in Northern Lebanon migrated to Australia 1950. Awarded the OAM. Who is it Edward Moses Obeid. Based on your criteria would rate him an outstanding immigrant, not a Lebanese Muslim, but a Maronite Catholic and a member of the ALP.
What about John Ibrahim and his family they would pass your criteria for 'good' migrants. Keep out those Muslims and let in the good guys. What about Ivan Milat he would pass your immigration test as would Martin Bryant, now there is a dinky di Aussie, pass the immigration test with flying colours blond hair, blue eyes, even Banjo and Runner would let that Aryan in.
Belly if you were to move to the left at the speed of light, there is a good chance you would pass Genghis Khan sometime in the next million years.

Belly,

Just wanted to add to Paul's points...

I just watched the local news with my son. This fellow, Akram Azimi was a refugee from Afghanistan, so I googled:

http://www.australianoftheyear.org.au/honour-roll/?view=fullView&recipientID=1011

What a wonderful Australian.

Poirot

'It appears that you need more education in Christian ethics. '
Telling the truth is one such ethic. Islam aplogist consistently fail to do so. Its good to know that you acknowledge their is a moral base to measure things by. Quite interesting considering you claim not to believe the claims of Christ. Maybe you should educate yourself where the basis of truth comes from before being so judgemental.

"For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me..."

Pretty basic stuff, runner...common humanity it's called. And Christ's radical message was that you shall love your neighbour as yourself, not demonise them because they hail from a different culture.

I don't know what particular brand is your Christianity, runner, but I find little that's Christlike in your commentary.

I have noted, and expected the heat aimed at me.
Again note and expected the BLANKET yes the efforts to bring other races, even our own first Australians in to this debate.
Clearly, honestly, all Nations have racists, this thread highlights an other form of it.
Racism based on a phantom never existed God.
We would have Zero trouble saying the Gods pre the 3 that came from the middle east, Jewish Christian, then came Islam, never existed.
But not as I have this one, or in fact as I think all three.
Csteele, like my self, defends a team, tells me he is a man but one the females love, stands out.
I see a warrior for Muslims, in his thread history, no independent commentator.
Ignoring my words, some brand me as one who says all Muslims are a danger, others implore by inference, me to love all.
How free is speech? if by just sharing my views, the views of more Australians than not, I am all the ugly things I am charged with.
Look at the head lines in this mornings papers.
Any mornings papers.
Force your self to re value your opinions, even strengthen them.

By seeing what many in Europe are saying, on both sides of this debate.
But remember my opponents, do not sweep it under the blanket on the floor.
We are here.
*Because a Muslim man/ranter in my country, said Celebrating Christmas is a sin for Muslims*
Tell me no more lies about peace and harmony with this cult.