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In My Country

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I from my first post have made the claim no Migration bar followers of Islam, have hurt this country as much as they have.
And know some will think differently.
They weaken the case against Muslim Migration.
Let us not forget, or hide the words of the Koran, or the great differences in its followers world wide.
IF America let its sub teen age girls be forced to wed older men, hear the left scream.
So lost from majority opinion are they, I see support here for anti female practices.
Tell me why the worst followers of this creed are also the lessor educated.
Ignore the building hate, within our country, for us and our way of life.
Ignore the signs at the protests world wide, the toy machine guns in the hands of children.
HATE for us, and yet we are asked to? ignore that?
A day comes west will fight east, no Muslim vs Muslim.
If we lost? those supporting Islaam would over night be no longer able to have opinions or be free.
Stop Muslim Migration unless those from within this middle ages cult like creed. undertake to let its followers be free from ranting teachers in almost every Mosque
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 27 December 2012 3:29:47 PM
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Dear Banjo,

I'm married to a bloke who came from Europe at the
age of nine. He went to private schools, finished
university, and worked professionally in the
Australian corporate world - ending up with his own
business. Over the years he has learned that to get
on in life and business was to avoid the Anglo-Irish
in this country who have caused him tremendous
difficulty and stress. He did not find difficulty
working with immigrants from Europe, Asia, and elsewhere
most of whom were hard workers and contributed to my husband's
success.

Today, he avoids where possible any dealings with the
Anglo-Irish. Many immigrants that he's associated with
apparently have had similar experiences. He tells me that he
has nothing against them 'per say' - it's their attitudes
that are the problem. I try to politely tell him that
perhaps his own attitude needs improvement as well.

The point that I'm trying to make is that none of us
are perfect - and we should look at ourselves and
our own attitudes - instead of stereotyping others.
We have to allow for individual differences in
people. Not all Serbs and Croats fight and cause problems.
The same goes for Lebanese Muslims and others that you
mentioned.

If we start excluding people - where will it stop?
You might want to do a bit of research into the history
of this country and realise that troubled times existed
way back to colonisation - and yet we've survived and
grown as a nation. I love this sunburnt country - and I
am proud of the tolerance most of us show to others.
I have the distinct feeling that you have a big heart -
and you could possibly be simply yanking my chain.
Posted by Lexi, Thursday, 27 December 2012 3:49:59 PM
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Lexi,
I was having a bit of a jibe at you about the Barmy Army and what about the group known as the Morris Dancers, they have caused us no end of trouble.

But seriously, Many of the groups I mentioned are Aussies, some 2-3 generations now and their conduct is unacceptable. We cannot deport Aus citizens so we are stuck with them. Best we can do is no import others of the same culture. These groups have shown us that they cannot/will not intergrate and that they hold their culture much higher than our laws and social standards.

There is nothing else we can do. You will notice also that most immigrant groups are NOT on the list, which means that they do compromise and adjust their cultural habits to comply with our society. You will also note that our society accepts a very wide range of diverse groups. But if we continue to accept, say the fighting of the Croats and Serbs or the anti social conduct of the Lebs we are compromising our own culture. A blind eye to FGM will result in it being acceptable.

The best we can do is have a selective immigration policy that excludes those that have shown us they have contempt for our society.
I have often wondered why muslims would want to come to Aus which has a completely different culture to them. The conclusion is that the muslims that come here see themselves as pioneers for Islam. As they build up numbers they will exert more influence and instigate change to suit them.
Posted by Banjo, Thursday, 27 December 2012 4:58:07 PM
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Dear Banjo,

Thank You for such a civil response.

I am pleased that you recognise the fact that
minority communities are a core part of our
national identity. I feel that there should be
restrictions and parameters set for who's a
suitable immigrant to this country - but the
restrictions should deal with things like a person's
criminal record, and other appropriate criteria, not
simply because they happen to belong to a certain national
group.

The expressed hostility towards "Lebs" as recent intruders
and trouble-makers belies the history of Australia, where
people of Lebanese ancestry have lived for more than a
century.

What worries me is that prejudice does create what it fears.
It curtails young people's prospects. Young Arab-Australians
are increasingly ghetoized in Sydney's poor suburbs where
they struggle for an education and jobs. Their families are
often also prejudiced against non-Arab Australians. And
therein lies the problem. The prejudice of the minority and
that of the broader society re-inforce each other.

We need more education and less fear mongering.

I don't believe that the majority of people who fled their
countries come here to "take over." I feel that they come
here for a better life - and they want to escape the life-style
that they fled from in the first place. Most are only too
happy to fit in and cause no problems. It's only a small
minority that presents a challenge. And trouble-makers exist
in all groups.
Posted by Lexi, Thursday, 27 December 2012 5:46:57 PM
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Lexi writes

'We need more education and less fear mongering. '

We do need more education for Islamic apologist. They need to stop being in denial about crime rates, world views and history. Ask people living in the UK how well Moslems integrate and obey laws once they establish strongholds. The more education you get on the islamic faith the more fearful women especially should be.

Facing thee truth is not fear mongering. Ask some of the girls and want to dress western style whether it is feqar mongering to complain of harassment and jeering. It puzzles me how feminist are so willing to defend the indefensible.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 27 December 2012 6:00:38 PM
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Dear Belly,

Don't you dare try and make the case you are talking for most Australians. At a football game earlier in the year some drunken fool tried to sling some racist taunts at a young indigenous player and he was quickly shouted down by the rest of the crowd, something that would not have happened thirty years ago. My country has evolved from that kind of acceptance of racism and most of us are not going to take that kind of crap any more.

Many may well have concerns about immigration, even specifically from middle-eastern countries but I don't think there would be one in a hundred who would equate Muslim immigration to the threat of Nazism or a Japanese invasion. You did. In doing so you have marked yourself as a scaremongering, bigoted racist.

You wrote about me; “as rude as anything I EVER put in print”. Mate I'm just telling it like it is. Should I have treated you like the female members of the forum have, politely and politically correctly? Yeah right. You rail against the very notion of PC so don't sook up when you get some straight talking back at yourself.

There are many issues I respect your position on but this is your weakness, born of fear and fed by blinkered ignorance. It can only serve to lessen you as a person.

Thankfully I believe my country is bigger than the poison you and your cohort wants to spread.

As to your Canadian Muslim don't try and pass him off as anything other than a self serving right winger. He stood as a candidate for a far right party, wants social services stripped and less taxes imposed, and doesn't want a bar of global warming. His anti-immigration speech was speaking to his constituency and that obviously includes you.

We have enough of that rubbish here without you trying to import more.

While I truly admire the more restrained contributors here I'm past giving civil responses. Keep serving this rot up and you are getting it back in spades.
Posted by csteele, Thursday, 27 December 2012 6:07:49 PM
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