*And for some reason these scared little (invariably) men are middle aged or older.*

Well luckily for us Csteele, those men and women around the world
have acted, as they run Govts around the world. Unlike yourself,
they clearly realise that explosions going of in numerous countries
killing thousands and buildings toppling over in New York after being
hit by human bombs, is a bit more serious than your fob off. Let's not forget that since the increased
security measures globally, the number of attacks that have been
thwarted in the nick of time, or the damage would have been far
greater.

Now if it was your wife or child who was blown up in Bali, you might
take a bit more notice and bother to inform yourself. But feel free
to stay ignorant. The rest of the world has acted, even if without you.

Wow! csteel, you have just proved the point on my last post. Thanks, mate.

Now instead of deflecting the Question, "Are you a Muslim?" could you please answer it directly. A single word post would be fine.

Yes or No.

& could you give us your Web Sites for us to have a look at please.

yabby jayb, note our verbal combatant uses pure bias and negativity against us.
Too that some questions are ignored.
I have a good memory, can report on much defense of the undefenseable from this poster.
Some who found common ground should spend a hour re viewing post history/hysteria of the person.

Wow!....this thread is going on for five hundred posts, and for the most part has been one long paranoid rant.

Surely that says something about fear-based human reactions.

Jayb and Belly's last posts respectively are typical devices often employed in the service of baseless innuendo.

Poirot: Jayb and Belly's last posts respectively are typical devices often employed in the service of baseless innuendo.

How so? Please explain.

By your silence we shall know you. A small liberty, never-the-less an accurate one, I'm sure.

So, csteel, you are a Muslim. See that wasn't so hard was it. Now we know where you are coming from. Now, the question is. Are you an immigrant, born here or a convert?

This will just aid us with psyche & help us understand who you are in relation to your stand on certain subjects. It will cut down on our frustration when dealing with your posts & hopefully make things a little more pleasant. I’m sure we would all like to be a lot more pleasant towards you & I’m sure we would be, if we all knew just who you are & where you are coming from.

"How so? Please explain."

"So csteel, you are a Muslim. See that wasn't hard was it. Now we know where you are coming from. Now, the question is. Are you a immigrant, born here or a convert?"

Your following paragraph is arrogant and your post is provocative....that's "How so".

It's fascinating. One intelligent poster attempts to go beyond visceral reaction, and the best you can do, Jayb, is invent a scenario to provoke continuing disaffection in the debate.

One doesn't have to be a Muslim (or of any religious persuasion) to glean that this discussion is tribal in nature, and that many of those contributing display the same sort of closed-minded arrogant and defensive attitude that they are criticizing.