Thanks again belly. I just reread not last post & thought, there's a certain few that will savage me like a rabid dog shortly. I get accused of saying all the members of the groups I have named are into mafia, drugs, rape & violence etc. I thought, I'd better fix that quickly before I lose a leg.

The normal association I made with these groups is like certain peoples (see rabid dogs) would make with the following;

Men; wife beaters, paedophiles.
Clergy; paedophilic Catholic Priests, .
Australians; homophobic, drunks, yobbo's, lack respect for others who aren’t Australian.
Police; demonstrator beaters, radar operators, prisoner killers.
Women; sweet, innocent, always right, beaten wives, poor, barefoot & pregnant, left destitute.
Unemployed; dole bludgers, drunks, druggo's, house wreckers.
Wacko's; Greenies, Politically Correct, homos.
Polititians; Well, Polititians, eh.
That's enough. I could go on.

I read of a Study by some Sociologist once saying that 12.5% of people give the rest a bad name. I do believe that is true.

I hope, that will sate those who would ravage my very being. I doubt it though. So, lay on your wrath. I don't really care. It'll give me a good laugh to start the day.

Thank you & thanks for the fish.

Jayb,

It serves no purpose to over-dramatise the situation.

Generalisations aren't helpful when discussing certain subjects. Humility, on the other hand, is irresistibly attractive. What is the problem with any of us (including moi) admitting we may have posted in haste, something that supported our argument, that upon further investigation was found to be erroneous?

To blow a raspberry and accuse one's detractors of being "rabid dogs" isn't helpful to us understanding each other - amidst all the strong emotions flung around on threads like this.

Dear Yabby,

So a riot by some idiots in Sydney is more egregious than the assassination/murder of an Australian politician and the contract killing of a drugs campaigner?

Man you do have it bad don't you. When someone’s views are that entrenched it is seemingly a futile exercise to call for reason.

Plus your Tonto is doing his best Paul Revere impression. ’Ring the bells’, ’Go to DEFCON 1!'

I had one of my sites hacked the other day. I didn't run screaming from the building calling it an ’attack on the innocents’ and equating it to a human bomb. More likely than not the person responsible for the SES hack is an overseas opportunist. Calls for the thread to have ’the culprit arrested’ is just inane.

Dial it back chaps.

poirot: It serves no purpose to over-dramatise the situation.

Is it an over-dramatization? I espoused what I said is the general feeling of the identities in Australia. Though, like claiming to be a Christian, when less than 25% of Christians in Australia go to church. No even gives it much in the way of heavy thought. More of innate passing comments.

Poirot: To blow a raspberry and accuse one's detractors of being "rabid dogs" isn't helpful to us understanding each other - amidst all the strong emotions flung around on threads like this.

So are you saying that it's OK for my detractors to savage me, as long as I don't try to present a logical arguement in defence.

csteel: So a riot by some idiots in Sydney is more egregious than the assassination/murder of an Australian politician and the contract killing of a drugs campaigner?

We know who is responsible for the McKay Murder. It was the Italian Mafia with the support of some very high up Law type people. This was a one off warning not to expose them.

The problem with "the few idiots in Sydney" is that they are calling for the death of all "infidels" (us), Well, not you, & they mean it, & whether you agree or not those of the same faith agree with them behind closed doors.

*So a riot by some idiots in Sydney is more egregious than the assassination/murder of an Australian politician and the contract killing of a drugs campaigner?*

In this case absolutaly Csteele, but you would need to think beyond
the tip of your nose to understand why.

A death here, a death there, they are frankly insignificant in the
bigger scheme of things. Ideology can be a far bigger threat, if
its followed. Hitler was an ideas man, the troops did the rest.
If you trace back the Neocons, it all comes back to a professor
who taught most of them. If you follow back militant Islam, much
of it which we presently see, leads back to the beliefs of Sayyid
Qutb. Thousands have been killed and tens of thousands have been
indoctrinated that they should be out there killing. From 911 to the
Bali bombings, its all part of it. Some of those same fellows are
now in our local streets, calling for the heads of Australians.

If you can't see the difference between the odd murder and the
threat that a dangerous ideology poses, then frankly I can't help
you. Your nose tip seems to be your limit.Interestingly enough
I think that you are far from stupid, more like just confused.

Yabby me Tonto hold own crimson horse white man!
You old mate are in debate with a slippery customer here.
Not going to win, but go back and see the post history, near hysteria around Drones and such.
I am getting a grin out of it but it remains pointless.
I do like the stuff, in my garden, but not five feet deep.
Dry over here very much so, did not take long for ground to turn to dust, cracks are widening here not far from the coast.