Dear Jayb,

So when we find you handing out copies of The Elders of Zion saying to the pundits "I don't really know how true the following is..." you don't deserve to be challenged?

Get real.

You had one of two choices here. You could have acknowledge what you posted was blatantly incorrect and apologised or you could decide to admit nothing and go on the attack.

You chose the latter and responded with “It's a view shared by most Australians. However, not a view shared by, Muslims, the Academia, Loony Greenie, & the Anti-Social PC crowd. They are unAustralian anyway. So I don't really give a R@T$ @r$3. Build a bridge.”

There are some lines on this site you really should not cross. When the rest of us engage you in debate it is with the general assumption any evidence you are posting has a degree of veracity. The rubbish you posted served to remove that assumption. The only real remedy was an apology and a commitment to be more careful in the future. As these have not been forthcoming you then become the type of poster that is not worth the effort.

I now recall you have previous form with this kind of thing.
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5123&page=0#138110

The common theme would seem to be snopes.com, it really is time to give that rubbish up.

Once was bad enough, this second effort has effectively labelled you as an untrustworthy, serial offender. Not a good look

Good onya Loudmouth, Joe .
Comes down to as you say Islam farms difference builds fences not links between us and them.

It's funny you should say that, Belly...seems this thread is full of people "farming difference and building fences" - not so many highlighting links between us and them.

csteel: You had one of two choices here. You could have acknowledge what you posted was blatantly incorrect and apologised or you could decide to admit nothing and go on the attack.

I have nothing to apologize for Ali bin csteel. I said at the outset that I didn't know how true it was. You are trying to make front page headlines out of Page 3.

You chose the latter and responded with “It's a view shared by most Australians. However, not a view shared by, Muslims, the Academia, Loony Greenie, & the Anti-Social PC crowd. They are unAustralian anyway. So I don't really give a R@T$ @r$3. Build a bridge.”

I stand by this. Most Australians (not the vocal unAustralian gaggle,) don't like what Islam is doing to our country.

*if you are going to post things on a thread where a good proportion of the contributors are intent on fanning intolerance*

Well there is the rub, Csteele. Personally I have become intolerant
of the intolerant and for good reasons. Turning the other cheek is
a dismal failure.

This is exactly where the West has run into a problem. Let's face
it, both in Australia and in Europe, our cultures have indeed become
far more tolerant over the last 50 years or so. That has all been
good news. But that tolerance has been abused by the intolerant.

We have seen that unfold in places like the UK, Holland, Belgium
and elsewhere. The flood of asylum seekers which they accepted over
the decades, has gone badly wrong. Next we had claims of muslims
being victims, calls for sharia law, terrorist attacks, global Caliphate calls
and all the rest. Our societies have become far
more divisive due to the influx of Islam. That is the reality.

So I don't think it is up to us to adjust, but up to Muslims to
adjust to our tolerant societies, otherwise to return to muslim
countries where sharia law rules. Stating the bleeding obvious
and being intolerant of the intolerant, makes perfect sense.

POIROT my well respected friend yes, but I see you standing in the middle of the ONLY TRUE ROAD toward a better world on this issue.
See Islam needs no defenders from out side, for them the truth is your head would and on top of mine if they had their way world wide.
The crimes and sins of both sides must be uncovered to proceed.
Yabby has, for me, put the best line in this conversation!
weary of being tolerant to the intolerant!
Good stuff.
The dutch politician is coming, he has every right to be heard in our democracy, his opercite came so should he.
Death toll increased 22 dead,target police and military in a market place.
More children more Muslims, murdered by Muslims.
More toll news from the people of peace next and everypost.