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RIP ALP?

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OUG YES, Ludwig I take the opposite view on Morrison, if you wish to know if he is lieing watch his lips, if they move he is.
579 not a chance with JG!
Other post best ignored.
Question time gave the most telling reason Gillard must go.
Tens of them, reasons exist, but after Abbott actions today not being able to beat him stands out.
Labor once said she had his measure, must have been waist or such, she leaves time and again chances to out box him on the floor.
Chuffed at the temporary single green in the lower house, he reacted as his party does, Ostrich like head in the sand, enjoyed it.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 4:40:47 PM
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Belly, I read the article and it just confirms what I have been saying all along. A few questionable characters like Williamson have been running the ALP and its not good for the country, just good for
their unions and careers.

Forget Rudd, everyone else has. What we have seen once again, is that the ALP is good for a few union mates, but certainly bad for farmers and many other Australians.
Posted by Yabby, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 5:25:22 PM
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Belly, you wrote a few posts back:

<< Any chance we get to review the lies Morrison is uttering? >>

I asked:

< What lies are these…? >

You responded:

<< Ludwig I take the opposite view on Morrison, if you wish to know if he is lieing watch his lips, if they move he is. >>

I’ve got to say that I’m a bit taken aback by this comment:

If we are to label someone as a liar, we’d want to have a pretty convincing example or two.

Gotta go, Scott Morrison is on the 7.30 Report.
Posted by Ludwig, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 7:36:01 PM
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Having just seen Morrison’s 7.30 Report interview, my well-developed view of him has been strengthened. I think that he is one of the most forthright, intelligent, articulate and sincere politicians of our time, and has surely got to be a good candidate for Lib leader at some point down the track.
Posted by Ludwig, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 8:02:30 PM
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Ludwig wrote: "Of course Labor can’t manage with the growth we currently have, because it is so utterly the wrong sort of growth. I refer primarily to the absurdity of extremely high immigration."

As journalist Crispin Hull has noted, Labor state governments in Queensland, New South Wales and Victoria were all ousted because they could not keep up with immigration-driven population growth.

Crispin:

"Most of the Premiers most of the time whinge that the Feds do not provide enough money. With perhaps the exception of then NSW Premier Bob Carr, rarely did they point to the real problem – keeping up with the pace of population growth.

During the “big Australia” debate, Australia’s population growth was around two per cent. It ate up all the increase in GDP so Australia was really in recession, even though the economists and politicians could deny it.

Worse, it required Australia to double its infrastructure effort – two per cent a year to replace the wearing out of what he have got (most of it having an average lifespan of about 50 years) and a further 2 per cent to deal with the extra two per cent extra population.

State Governments were overwhelmed and fell behind. The stresses on existing infrastructure became palpable – transport, schools, hospitals, roads and so on.

Food prices have gone up as market gardens have been pushed further from city centres.

Voters may not have made the link, but they turfed out governments which could not deliver."

http://www.crispinhull.com.au/2012/04/22/state-govts-ousted-because-they-just-cannot-keep-up/
Posted by drab, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 4:42:07 AM
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Yabby I can not disagree with your post,almost every word of it.
You have seen me, a member and activist of the ALP, warn that TRUE REFORM is needed.
You know I am also a unionist/ex official,but as just that it is time!
Time to look back at why both movements formed, no suits and high incomes there.
Just sweaty singlets and work cloths.
We at first lived on dreams and very little else.
Even in the victory of Kevin 07 we still looked like that party.
But increasingly, power brokers, strange way, after seeing their actions, to spell children of unwed parents!
First hid Rudd's faults, then used them,to have their take over of my party and turn it to their property.
I stand tall, proud of our policy's.
But just as we got it wrong, very wrong on boat refugees, we did so armed with ALP wish to be kinder.
And that was wrong.
Abbott who cares little for people, took our blunder and used it and used it.
We,as yesterday showed in Parliament, had only yet another mistake, Gillard to defend us.
I stand at the bottom of a tree, with my party's followers, watching those power brokers plan for my party's defeat, rather than say, what Gillard would not yesterday, we got it wrong.
Australia has not forgotten Rudd.
His support for an ALP free of union control bought him down, nothing else
continued.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 5:25:13 AM
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