Ludwig good morning.
Well I think you understand I am a student of politics.
I knew only Kevin had been more than rude a few times to such as air hostesses.
The press knew more,but as with Paul K kept it to them selves.
Rudd, much like Latham knew little about unions.
He knew he wanted an end to their control of the party.
There lays the whole story, as the book to come will tell us, it was a planned hit.
He was not warned Gillard Shorten and my faction, the right knifed him.
Do you think Gillard can win? did we benefit from that knife?
And did the hand holding the knife even consider the party?
In NSW WE SOLD MEMBERSHIP FOR $5! NOW QLD!
We just lost BLACKTOWN COUNCIL! it has never happened before.
My party, every day Gillard remains in charge, is BETRAYING ME.
And my party.
Turning my breathing living party in to roadkill is her only acHeivment that concerns me.
We must not, yet, reward those who held the knife.
Returning a better Rudd re unites my party and those who have been sold out.

Morning Belly. Wonderful day here in Cairns.

You know my views on this. Better policies, that's what Labor desperately needs. Not a new leader with the same old doctrine.

Gillard finally came out and admitted that Labor had to adopt some of Howard's border-protection policies... without admitting it as such.

She admitted it by doing it without admitting she was doing it!

But the important thing was that she saw the absolutely necessity of developing different policies.

Labor needs to evolve, big-time. She's taken the first step. Now she needs to get her views against a Big Australia into order and steer the party in that direction.

Now, how on earth could Snorter... er Snortin... erum Shorten possibly snot it to the silly Libs? No chance!!

How could Rudd return the rabble and reign supreme? It's a ridiculous proposition!

Shorten or Rudd would simply take the party in just the same direction as it is going now.... and quite frankly, that will NOT work for them!

But hey, wait a minute....

What if Thomson took the terrible trashy policies of his party and turned them topsy-turvy and transformed that troop of trollops into a tight-knit top-rate unit of..... sustainabilityists!

If you don't like Carr, then consider Kelvin Thomson. Very articulate, intelligent, genuine and focussed in the right direction!

Go check him out Belly. There are lots of youtubes of his talks.

Cains? lucky you!
Mate I disagree with almost all of that.
My success as a union official came from just being fair dinkum, hearing what others said saying you got that wrong if I needed to.
It is my view our few failures are the property of Gillard and her faction.
And that Shorten is, if he has the guts to shift camps, a great leader in waiting.
We Labor can not avoid the betrayal of Rudd is every bit as bad, in Joe and Jane publics eye, as Curr/Kerr over again.
On our front and back bench sit the equal of ANY.
We should not let our achievements[ good lawd she is on the TV must run to turn it off]over look Gillard is poison!

Belly, we’ll just have to agree to hold fundamentally different views on this.

Australia so badly needs a new political regime, which swings right away from the absurdity of the continuous growth spiral - where extremely high immigration is touted to be good for our economy by providing jobs and increasing markets, while economic growth which is touted to be the answer to everything battles in vain to provide the same standard of living for this rapidly increasing population!

It’s the epitome of utter madness!!

A regime of sustainability, where the demand is stabilised rather than forever increasing is of fundamental and critical importance.

I thought that you agreed with this, and yet it doesn’t seem to figure at all in your ideas for the future of the Labor party or politics in Australia.

Labor, being in the position they are now in, facing annihilation at the next election, has surely GOT to face the prospect of embracing this new paradigm. Especially given that they have two excellent insiders who are oriented in this direction.

The time is absolutely right for them to do it, and they’ve got all the motivation in the world to go for it. If they don't, they're cactus!!

The LAST thing Labor or this country needs is just another new leader, or recycled leader, that continues on with the same old now disproven all-growth-is-good-and-faster-growth-is-always-better insane political regime.

We have a lot of common ground Ludwig, I do agree as you said, but mate this country is not yet ready to agree with us.
Based on nothing but her personality and way of getting PM job Gillard will/must go.
Labor now it has confronted the greens must re take the conservation ground.
Do you know Carr made more and better National Parks than anyone,and some wanted him hung for it.
He you may know rose to the top in scouting and loved a bush walk.
I have no fears Labor will reform, it is the only reformist party.
But thanks to factional leaders stumbling over its own reform.
Once seat under them, in the house, too many forget those who put them there.
We will reform,our policy's are good but we crash and burn without wining back trust.
And every change first must be sold.
If and it seems Labor has conceded Abbott wins we will ride back in to office on his failures not our reforms as we did with Howard, no way to run a country.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/turnbull-firms-as-preferred-leader-20120916-260kj.html
Politics can baffle, it does those unaware it can be a slippery eel.
My link in no way changes my mind Labor must change its leader.
Yet the polls seem to disagree, and I am aware of future events that may unseat Tony Abbott.
First the link, Turnbull,despite the extremes not wanting him, now has majority support in his party followers.
That spells the end for a Gillard lead Government.
It is as much a rejection of Abbott as anything.
Gillard and Labor are up, for the same reason,but add the needless actions of state leaders who fuel Labors federal fires,wiser men would have waited.
Next 3 months are interesting,SLIPPER!
A blast from the past, ute gate all over again!
See love or hate the bloke,he has been set up, weare going to see and hear much more.
Some Liberal heads may/will roll.