cont'd ...

Just to help you out, the name of the Bill is:

Migration Legislation Amendment (The Bali Process) Bill 2012.

Google it and you will find quite a few websites to choose
from. As I stated - it does take quite a bit of effort
not only to read the entire Bill - but its Amendments as
well and digest it before you can know what it is that
you are so willing to condemn.

Anyway, I have nothing further to add to this discussion.
Everyone has the right to criticise and condemn -
however you guys are abusing the privilege.

A carbon tax will help dirty companies to become clean, the tax will work as a disadvantage. By passing on the costs, especially power, people will change to a green power provider. There is no tax on green power.

Lexi,

I read the full bill not just your headlines. Again there was nothing of value. Obviously you haven't read it or you would have come to the same conclusion.

This bill is a feeble attempt to provide smoke and mirrors for the same pathetic Labor bill.

Lexi you will have to not be nice to get past this lot.
Rechtub, you should know but seem not to.
Labors tax is to become a trading scheme just as Howard/Turnbull wanted.
Shadow Minister, I find your comment Gillard or was it Labors lap dog,
HAD TO BE REFERRING TO ME, quite unbalanced! I am on record as not being a fan of her.
And unlike your self, quite often let it be known not every thing my party has done is right.
Banjo, silly stuff,EVERY POSSIBLE SOLUTION every one, has to be in part from those available within this bill.
KNOW Indonesia is not the home of these people, sending them there, our problem, when told they do not want it, is madness and maybe an act of war.
SM bleats, no other word is worth while, about UNHCR but with deliberate forethought dos not tell Nehru was not a member when Howard used it.
Indonesia is not and this phoney as a 11 dollar bill opposition says it will send them there.
Most DREADFUL Abbott knows, he does, he has no intention of EVER turning boats around at sea.
Saturday Labor will be destroyed in QLD.
And one day Conservatives will suffer for turning our politics in to a breathless game of lies.

Dear Belly,

Speaking about "niceness."

I remember reading Margaret Whitlam's biography
a few years back - written by Susan Mitchell.

In it Mitchell stated that Margaret Whitlam
always prepared in advance for whatever she
agreed to do. Even is she was going to an opera
or a concernt she would play the music beforehand
just to set herself in the groove. This was as a
result of her upbringing, her parents, her
schooling and her understanding of what constituted
proper bevaviour.

That is why many Libs regarded her as a sort of
Australian class traitor. "After all Margaret was
the daughter of a respected lawyer, she had gone
to a "good" school and what did she go and do
but get herself involved with the "Bolshevist"
Gough Whitlam and live out there in Cabramatta
amongst the indecent garden gnomes, Hill's Hoists,
and fibro villas. I mean, one does take a jet
if one is going anywhere further west than Grace Bros,
doesn't one."

There had been many comments apparently at a Menzies
"seduction dinner," and Margaret recalled a similar
exchange at her first official dinner in Canberra for
the Coronation in 1953 when Liberals and Labor Party
members were seated together and she sat next to Billy Snedden,
who eventually replaced McMahon as the Liberal Party leader.

They were all having a very jolly time when a Liberal
sitting opposite Margaret asked,

"God, Margaret, what's a nice girl like you doing in the
Labor Party?"

Margaret replied, " I belong to the party that cares about
people, and I don't see any of you lot doing much of that."

And that, as they say, was the end of that conversation.

butch,
Assessing the age of the illegals is only an incidental issue. Stop them from coming here fixes that, simple really.

Belly where am I lieing? The previous government had the boats stopped and the current mob started it all up again. That is fact, no question! Would not the practical thing to do is to go back to what worked a few years ago and start there? If that does not deter the illegals, then make it tougher still. They will eventually get the message. If my sheep get out I put them back and not only fix the fence, but strengthen it.

Lexi,
I was critical of the previous government for taking so long (years) to deter the illegals from coming. Finally they got it right (probably by accident)and the boats stopped coming.

That is where the present government should start. Failure to admitt to being wrong has cost hundreds of lives and cost billions, as Belly said. They have the hide to claim the previous policies were inhumane.