Lexi,
The link you provided is simply a letter from Oakshot to other parliamentarians. It makes some vague references about various matters. I does not outline anything specific about how a body would operate, who does the processing or where. Not even what countries he reckons would be willing to participate. These things are the nuts and bolts of a proposal.

As I said before little is posted about his scheme. The only thing that can be gleamed from Belly's first post is that a body of 50 countries is to be set up to facilitate offshore processing of illegals. Who pays for this and how it would operate is not mentioned as well as many other essential matters.

One would think that any serious proposal to facilitate any processing of illegals would outline the practical and working aspects. At least the Malaysian proposal was claimed to be a deterant and gave some details (not very good for us) about how it would work.

Australia's aim should be to deter the illegals from attempting to make the trip to Aus. There is absolutely no reference to this.

Or is it simply viewed that to allow these illegals to continue to make a hazardous trip, be intercepted and then taken wherever for processing and then given permanent residence visas and transport to our mainland.

When will you and Labor realize that the illegals are liars and cheats who have bribed their way here knowing what they do is illegal and then lie to our officials to get what they want. We are being conned by them and we are paying for it.

Banjo,the Bali group has I think 57 members.
Yes know I said less, wanted to be careful.
It wants a regional solution to this problem.
REMEMBER while Australia is the destination,more often than not.
Other country's, including Indonesia, and Malaysia, but not only them, are being hard pressed by these folk.
YOU not me, or any one,should research, at this hour I have read goggle news, for England Australia NZ and the US.
SMH followed then local and northern NSW papers.
Stodgy old TV site next.
I followed all links that interested me.
Later if well enough will read Politics then watch question time, so basically bit informed here.
Am I lying? no,
See in the end Oakshot is not offering a Labor answer,I do not back away from my party's mistakes, Oakshot is offering something out of fashion.
He, in his plan, in my view, gives EVERY SOLUTION POSSIBLE and and end to these boats,AN END by offshore processing.
BOTH sides only answers, no other exists,are in this plan.
You Banjo, should understand, if the fence is broken, sheep on the road, get them back fix the fence.
Asking why the fence broke can wait till that is done.

Dear Lexi, with respect, Malcolm Turnbul did not support a carbon tax, he supported an ETS, huge difference.

You can put it any way you like, the fact remains, the PM lied and the people did not get a say and, how on earth can anyone be better off with a new tax.

As for madam PM having learned from her mistakes, you're kidding, one or two perhaps, but multiple stuff ups.

Perhaps she should do the honorable thing and hand back some of the million$ or so she has earned, after all, had she been a business owner, she would have lost money, not earned it as is the case.

Now as for winning so many votes, most know that was only due to the very short lead time, as she knew that her only chance was to call the ballot sooner, rather than latter.

As for having 'balls', you're right, the caucus holds them though and tugs them in the direction THEY choose.

579, just how will a price on carbon kick start green energy.

After all, the tax is simply a license to pollute, as so long as you pay the tax, you can do as you wish, as it will simply be passed on.

Banyo, it is my understanding that one key problem with the illegals is that we can't prove their age, as it is against their rights for us to perform a bone marrow density test
So, most of them are either 40+, or an unaccompanied Minor, which I again believe gives them more rights.

Lexi, Belly,

I assume by your inability to provide even one clause in Oakeshott's long winded policy that shows any legal protection for asylum seekers once they have left Australian custody, that you have cannot, or that you have not read it, and simply wish to swallow the Labor line that it is in some way middle ground.

In all the reams of waffle, there is nothing of substance, and is simply a piece of spin by Juliar's lap dog.

Belly,
I never said you are lieing. I said you did not provide information about Oakshots scheme, and neither has anyone else on this thread.

It does not matter how many papers you read or if you watch parliament on TV, if you do not give details of a scheme you support then how can you convince anyone else of its merritts? Why not outline the concept and list the favourable aspects you see.

For my part, I do not see how a group of 50 nations talking in Bali is a deterent to illegals and what is more some have a vested interest in keeping the present set up. e.g. landlords and food supppliers in Indonesia and Malayasia, and others, make good money from the illegals. The illegals are our problem and it is up to us to deter them. This can be done, as has be shown before this government stuffed it up, and can be done again.

There is no need for an international body, just put in the deterents and the illegals will stop coming.

The idea of some internation group is simply to cover the wrong decissions by our government.

I challenge all of you Liberal supporters to come up
with anything positive just once for a change instead
of consistently attacking and condemning everything
that is being proposed by others in the minority
government.

Any body can criticise but it takes some intelligence
and creativity to offer alternatives that are in the
interests of the nation. Forget about what was proposed
in the past by the Howard government and present anything
new and positive if you want the voters to pay attention
and support you at the next election .

From my experience recently - all our friends and a few
family members - who have been
strong Liberal supporters all of their lives are now
beginning to turn away and are looking at Independents
and the Greens as an alternative.

If you guys did not like the link I gave - how about Googling
the actual Bill - where if you take the time - things
are explained in full detail. I have given the full name
of the Bill in a previous post - but of course I realise
that involves a bit of effort - which is something that
may be in the "too hard basket" for many of you.