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Rob Oakshots Private Bill

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Dear SM,

Have you actually read the Bill?

Because what you're saying is not correct.

Kindly read it.
Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 11:56:14 AM
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SM only has eyes for Mr abbott. Some people don't have any common cense at all.
Labor will surge ahead and do the hard yards as normal. Just as well we have a resilient leader. Far to good for tony's unused brain.
Doesn't say much for the noalition having to put up with the three stooge's.
Posted by 579, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 12:17:03 PM
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Lexi,

I have read quickly through it, and have failed to find anything that legally guarantees the rights of the asylum seekers after they have left Australian custody.

Perhaps, with your vast legal experience could enlighten all of us to the clause that I have missed that required the destination country to pass legislation or sign up to the UNHCR to enforce the rights of Asylum seekers.

Otherwise the rest is just meaningless verbiage from a notorious windbag.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 2:27:58 PM
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Banjo I consider you a mate, but Lexi has it right, on this issue you are just about as wrong as you can get, anyone post a link here please?
Question time, those who watched will have noticed the opposition had nearly as many out side in the sin bin as in.
And Abbott turning his back as the minister spoke about this bill, often quoting Howard legislation.
Reading from that,we heard it was Howard's policy to send boat people for offshore processing *Only* to country's agreeing to take them.
Far from agreeing *Indonesia warned us against it 2 weeks ago*
And is not a member of the UNHCR!
Abbott has not intention of destroying our relationship with that country.
It was J W Howard who placed great value on that relationship, his policy said this.
*Any solution has to be Indonesia based*
SM knows this others do not but spin is spin even if its some uninformed with head spinning, miss information.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 2:43:36 PM
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lexi,
The link you posted does not give any further information about Oakshots scheme. As I said, little info is posted about the scheme, yet Labor supporters are seeking public support. The nuts and bolts of what he is proposing has not been posted.

Belly,
You gave very little info in your first post, except you claim 50 countries would be part of it. What makes you think these other countries would be interested in taking the illegals either for processing, let alone permanently? Nauru is the only country to so far offer its area, with the proviso that we run and operate the detention centre and pay a substantial benefit to Nauru.

You said."Billions of our dollars spent, hundreds of deaths at sea, we are told.
A solution is the needed out come".

If Labor really wanted a solution and was concerned about the hundreds of deaths, they would start with the previous governments policies which worked, because it denied the illegals what they were after. But Labor will not admitt they were wrong so the monetary cost and the deaths will continue.

Again I ask, why would other countries be interested in forming a large committee to process and settle illegals, when Australia is the destination of the illegals? Especially those who have not signed the UN refugee agreement. If that is the basis of Oakshots scheme, he is having himself on.

The solution is not to give the illegals what they seek and they will stop coming.
Posted by Banjo, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 7:20:49 PM
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Dear SM,

Kindly go back and read the link I gave earlier.
It explains things in detail. Of course I can't
be responsible for your comprehension skills.
However I repeat what you are saying is not correct.

Dear Banjo,

Do you really expect anyone to take you seriously
when there's no rhyme or reason for the nonsense
you're spouting. I expected more from you.
You're behaviour does you no credit. Go back and
read my link again. It's self explanatory - and
makes a great deal of sense. A solution to the
problem of asylum seekers needs to be negotiated
by both sides of Parliament. And this Bill is a step
in the right direction.
Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 7:34:09 PM
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