Belly and Lexi,

All you two is waffle and repeat the Labor party line.

None of you has been able to point out where Oakeshott's "new policy" differs materially with that of Labor's as far as protections afforded to the asylum seekers.

Until you actually do the hard yards, read the policy and comment on more than the Labor party spin, you are just mindless drones.

PS Juliar's lapdog is RO.

So I am a mindless drone.
I except your right to that opinion, and take no offense at it.
I however want to expand on my views about you.
The following is in no way meant to offend.
I truly believe every word.
It is my view you are not capable of true debate, not able to look at politics from other than your views.
This may, I remain unsure, be because of intellectual limits.
Or it may be that you are indeed a spin manager for your party.
No chance exists, not a grain of sand in a beach chance, you can talk politics without a bias that is blinding.
You refuse, every time, to tell of the faults in your side.
Tomorrow another Labor government falls,so be it, I understand voters get it right.
And that Labor learns from its defeats, much like NSW Labor won one election too many.
Now be honest, I KNOW, you could never utter words like that about your side.
I see here you,paint in hand, trying to cover up the intention of this Bill.
To end the boats, to do what both party's and most Australians want.
Your wish seems to retain this issue as a weapon.
Tomorrow, in QLD, Labor goes, but while it has only its self to blame, lies, take a place of dishonor too in their fall.
My ALP brothers and sisters we must under stand defeats strengthen, when change follows.
Greens are not the answer.
They are the problem, at least if they do not do well, I will have one thing to be pleased with.

I wish to revisit the threads intent.
I wanted to look at the Bill.
And too highlight the dreadful state of this stalled issue.
I saw and see,it as a chance,just a chance, to resolve it.
Yes greens and others will be found full of contempt for me and my views.
But they too, must review theirs.
Are my rights, the majority's rights,to our opinions as worthy as theirs?
A hung Parliament,it cripples public debate, it cripples our Parliament on this issue.
I want and end to the boats, an end to illegal entry refugees from any mode of travel.
And with my heart think the links above show this bill is not just ALP propaganda.
Still,a STRONG chance exists, that Tony Abbott will never be PM he miss uses us all.
He wants only failure on this issue.
CONSENSUS negotiations, tell me why only Abbott's plan will do?
Why except a policy that Abbott talks about BUT WILL NEVER IMPLEMENT? turning the boats around?

Belly,

You do little for your cause by pontificating on a policy you haven't even bothered to read. If you simply recycle the Labor spin on the issue, then you aren't actually contributing to the debate.

I would welcome labor's first ever effort to compromise with the coalition, but this collection of waffle masquerading as new policy is not even close to a compromise.

Abbott won't even put the noalition's name on help for auto makers. 30,000 jobs at stake.
Abbott's motley lot don't want to compromise, they are stuck in a hole.
IT's up to Labor to do the hard yards, almost 300 bills passed, in record time.
Tax reform, and clean energy, has been kick started.
A progressive govt; and a fearless leader.

I have had my say SM in truth I consider further slanging match's with you uncalled for.
I have no confidence you will ever be a balanced or understanding debater.
Put if you have the intestinal fortitude, your plans to fix the problem.