Lexi thank you and nice to see you.
I could engage in spin with Shadow Minister, he may well own one of those circus merry go rounds, but it is always pointless.
Labors back down, that is exactly what it was, did gain it the high ground morally.
And it clearly, gave Conservatives the return of, in part their PACIFIC SOLUTION.
Now for purpose of debate, say all blame is Labors.
Let us claim, for the same reason, Abbott's turn them back plan is not insane, not confrontational in the eyes of Indonesia.
Then is it time to resolve this issue, or has CONSERVATIVE politics in Australia become a spin machine not policy or interests of the country driven.
SM will continue to look to the past, ignore the present, and ignore advice his plan no longer works.
We should take a stand here write to our members and give our views, what ever they are.
But demand an end to squabbling and a fix this now approach.

Dear Belly,

All this "wedge politics," - that deliberately creates
a division between sectoral interests - is an outmoded
name of the game. People are getting sick and tired of
it. It destroys trust, and the feelings of a caring
society. It shouldn't have to be "them" and "us."
It should simply be "us." A middle way has to be
found. And it won't be a moment too soon.

is an outmoded name of the game. People are getting sick and tired of it.

Belly & Lexi,
Well, you'd better tell that to your Labor cronies, you're the ones practising this abhorrent tactic.
So far as turning back the boats is concerned the Conservatives (if in Govt) will need to think up a radically new policy. Don't just think things haven't changed & we can continue along the present ruined policies. When the loop holes became easier to find the tactics of the boat people have changed too. People smuggling, unlike policies have evolved quite significantly & it'll be up to the next Government to become smarter also

This private member's bill is essentially another attempt to bring in the Malaysian solution.

The governments original legislation would allow the minister to deport anyone to anywhere, and the coalition simply added the requirement that the recipient country be a signatory to the UNHCR.

Oakeshott's legislation simply replaces the UNHCR requirement with being a member of the Bali process. This Bali process essentially means that the countries need to attend meetings on people smuggling, and no humanitarian protections are required or enforced.

Even Wilkie thinks this plan stinks.

If I understand any thing then this not well patronized thread is descriptive of not only public debate on this issue.
But the state of Australian politics.
Lexi I congratulate you on your understanding.
Individual to you too, thanks.
I truly see in your post a special blindness, fueled by a deep unintended maybe, BIGOTRY.
This issue, two sides, Labor once totally wrong, now following public wishes.
Want off shore processing.
Both blame the other side for not haveing it.
Oakshot has put a plan , one that covers all options.
One BOTH PARTY'S can find their required out come in.
And one other regional country's, more than 50, are to be involved in.
Those country's ,members of the Bali group, are already talking, about a regional solution.
Look yes at me, at the stand of Shadow Minister, and the words of Individual.
Understand the verbal combat, the pure spin, my reluctance to consider the greens capable of consensus.
In the end, as it always is, more so in a hung Parliament, a compromise must be found.
Right now we spend BILLIONS on on shore processing, any understanding person should see less boats is the outcome of offshore processing.
But more refugees saved in Malaysia.

It would appear that for labor, the requirements of either the UNHCR or the coalition's humanitarian protections are too onerous for their refugee dumping policy.

When Labor wanted to introduce a law to strip all rights from refugees by revoking the coalitions protection clause, the coalition compromised by requiring that the recipient country of Labor's dumping policy was a signatory to the UNHCR.

Labor simply refused to compromise. It has no plans for any middle ground.