Lexi,

The clause in the migration act that Labor is trying to erase in full is the only clause that gives the asylum seekers protection. The only amendment that the coalition has asked for is that the country to which the asylum seekers are sent to sign up to the UNHCR minimum requirements. That Malaysia refuses to shows that the "assurances" given by Malaysia are worthless.

Given that Juliar herself said in 2010 that she would only send asylum seekers to a country that is a signatory to the UNHCR shows that Labor is fully aware of the risks of doing otherwise.

"As for Rob Oakshott's Private Bill. It's only an attempt
at finding a olution to the asylum-seeker issue - and it's
an attempt that tries to accomodate the "Nay-sayers."

Given that Oakeshott's bill does not ask for the asylum seekers to have the rights under the UNHCR or any other legally binding rights, means that it is Labor's plan with some flowery language and good (but unenforceable) intentions.

I'm sorry, but this is a joke, and I am surprised that you are happy to endorse the Malaysian plan with no further protections.

It will be an issue such as this that unseats Abbott.
He and SM like to talk about Labor as if in one of those circus distorted mirrors.
Note the references to UNHCR, but find me a destination Howard sent refugees to that was then a member.
Look at the death toll from one ship turned around that sank.
Tell me SM will your funny leader truly destroy our relationship with Indonesia, one Howard worked so hard to maintain?
By turning boats around against their wishes.
Rob Oakshots bill contains, bet on it, the very solution Abbott would use in power.
Are you SM a fan of letting the UNHCR tell us what to do?
Lexi we feed this man, we weed his garden giving him an audience.
You will not find understanding or even true concern for boat people, they exist only to be used to defame us.
It will indeed be an issue like this, or one of many,that Abbott's on the run, therefor untrue, comments, brings him down.

Dear Belly,

You're right.

We should stop giving the man a platform.

Belly,

Even you have to admit that the pacific solution worked. When Labor took power there were 4 asylum seekers in detention. The pacific solution complied with the requirements of the UNHCR treaty, to which Australia is a signatory, because Australia had complete control of the detention centres.

Talking about ruining relationships with Indonesia, Juliar has done a wonderful job with the live cattle trade fiasco.

However, it is clear that neither you nor Lexi have actually read RO's policy, or if you have you are still unable to point to any clause that guarantees the asylum seekers any legal protection.

Answer please.
What protection did they get under Howard's system.
What nation then, was a signatory to the UNHCR?
Yes Lexi see you in another thread.

Belly,

As the high court acknowledged, the detention center in Nauru was run fully under Australian jurisdiction and according to UNHCR guidelines.

If Labor was proposing to open a detention center in Malaysia run by Australia, I am sure the Coalition would have no objection.