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Rob Oakshots Private Bill

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Dear SM,

As you know circumstances changed and the PM
became part of a minority government. Decisions
taken had to be done with consultation of the
Independents and the Greens. Public policy
innovations such as the carbon tax that would
have gone through with Malcolm Turnbull as leaderr
of the Opposition struck obstacles with Mr Abbott.
This was unfortunate - as even today Mr Turnbull
supports the carbon tax. However, as we all know
public policy innovations such as the carbon tax
often struggle (as did the GST) to become widespread.
They are not at first eagerly applauded.

This is because communicating innovation is no easy
task. The PM has learned from her mistakes - and
will continue to provide the necessary information for
the public so that they can fully understand the issue.
I think once the scare tactics disappear and with time
positive outcomes result - the public will see for
themselves that there's little to fear and that we shall
all be better off as a result.

This is a PM "with balls," who is prepared to take the
hard steps for the national interest. Possibly that's
why she won so many votes to the Party Leader challenge.
I wonder how Mr Abbott would have fared under the same
circumstances in his party.
He barely scraped through by one vote
the last time.
Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 11:12:12 AM
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Circumstances changed? You mean that it was now convenient to break a promise to the public, and once the vote was counted, there was nothing the public could do about it. I notice that she quietly shafted Wilkie when it was convenient.

Why are all Labor's innovations great big new taxes.

I think the public do understand the issue and the lie, and the opinion polls are a direct indication of this.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 2:49:07 PM
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Rechtub, if your wish was granted war could be a possibility.
Are you aware Indonesia its self is not the home of these folk.
Do you want to destroy our relationship with them.
Not balls,not murder,just brains.
That is all that is needed.
Can you describe just what Abbott will do, not what he says,that is a different matter.
Considering you want mass murder ,thats what it is, calm down think and learn Oakshot has offered and end to the boats, just that, no deaths both Liberal wishes and Labors.
Your hot headed rant,that mate is what it is, is to silly to be considered .
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 2:50:24 PM
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Dear SM,

Putting it as politiely as possible - you're
now simply stirring. If Mr Abbott would have
succeeded in convincing the Independents and
the Greens to form a minority government with him
he would have been in exactly the same position
as the current PM was. She was forced to
negotiate on every decision and try to achieve the
best possible outcome for the nation. Which is
what she did. And as Mr Howard explained -
with his "core and
non-core promises." In other words -
situations change in a flash in
politics.

However, back to the topic - Rob Oakshott's Private
Bill on asylum seekers. One can only hope that both
parties will be able to negotiate a solution to this
problem. A bit of give and take would not go astray.

As for opinion polls - these also can change very
quickly - as we saw with the PM winning
her leadership challenge. Communication is vital
in politics - and the PM has learned that.

The voters will get a chance to decide which political
party offers Australia the brigtest future - based on
their policy platforms prior to the next election.
The people will ultimately decide for themselves.
And they usually get it
right in the end.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion. As I am
to mine. I may possibly see you on another thread.
That is if I continue to read your posts.
They are a bit predictable.
Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 3:38:54 PM
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SM, butch, and arjay. What a treo;
Palmer has pulled out of the debate. I think he has seen the light.
Abbott is still his non conformist self, nothing to say and no ideas.
Pledges in blood, crap, no, I honestly believe this will be his downfall.
Big Joe not impressive, nothing of substance to say.
Julia is taking the fight right up to them, all the noalition can come up with is disruption and cat calls.
Posted by 579, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 3:59:32 PM
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Abbott offered the independents funding for pet projects, not the job destroying carbon tax, the idiotic pokies licence, etc, ie. no broken promises.

Juliar won the leadership ballot, because electing Rudd would be tantamount to saying "Rudd was useless, but Juliar is worse"

As for Oakeshott's plan it is woolly and essentially a dressed up version of Labor's original rights stripping legislation.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 4:31:35 PM
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