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Halal Slaughter: What Evidence?

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*The public turned out one hundred and twenty thousand Australia wide a month ago.*
Yabby, not that its important but i watched in on the news- Aussie wide they said 120K( Chanel 7 argue with them.
I didn’t go. It would be lamb to a slaughter- no just kidding. Whatever- for everyone who attended another 100 at home would support their position on it.

http://www.animalliberationfront.com/ALFront/Arkangel/Ark13pt3.pdf

No wonder they are trying so hard to organize another one on the 14th. They
need credibility, for they certainly don't have numbers.*

Oh are they? I didn’t know that. I can say in all honesty I never look at their site.
Well thanks for telling me- i guess we should give them a hand.
We have people in every state. One thing I will say about Muslims- they are very good funds raisers.
Prompt to turn up and get stuck in. So hey thanks from the animals Yabbs.

. *You need Ausmeat accreditation for that.*Yup 5&half K X 2 people + accom.
Not that *I had to.
I don’t sell meat- i connect buyers growers& gov+ Muslim contacts for accreditation's.


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*If our cattle did not eat the grass, wildfires would dominate the
landscape each summer. The cities would choke on it.*

CORRECT & our argument for Free range only- + healthier product.
Just like a guy I was chatting to in WA yesterday- free range
Posted by Kerryanne, Thursday, 28 July 2011 10:10:49 PM
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*but i watched in on the news- Aussie wide they said 120K *

I watched the news too, Gertrude and they never claimed that.
So either once again you are telling porkies or yet once again
your memory for numbers is flawed.

Farmers cannot export meat, they would all need accreditation
by Ausmeat, which means a course and an extended knowledge of
meat and all the regulations. Accredited export works, with
the establishment number written on every box, are meat
exporters. The rest are simply wheelers and dealers who
want their commission.They are a dime a dozen.
But then Australia already sells 800 million $ a month of
meat. MLA work with the big boys, not the dreamers. Fair enough.

Somebody frankly has to tell you this stuff occasionally, as
you live in your own little dream world over there, isolated
from reality. So shoot the messenger.
Posted by Yabby, Thursday, 28 July 2011 11:47:09 PM
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Yabby
Pls search net. Only glanced up. It was 7 news.

Ausmeats- no problem *already have import licenses .– As *if we would expect farmers to do that part too.
What do you take us for. Farmers have enough to do.

How it works EG:-
Heres one for Iran- won’t put all.

: 20000 ton beef meat in 6 month, every month 1500 up to 2000 ton in month in 20 contracts. Please send Performa invoice to us and we need Halal brand and payment be in LC from bank. About provide beef we have tree company agent that control provide beef meet. Also Your Company must pay cost of 2 company agent Age of meet must be under 24 months and present of your beef include 37% hindquarter And 63% forequarter, 10% of forequarters can be other beef meet.

xx
*Now each *new customer we invite company+ vet - You know that already.*
Our job- Take them to Halal plants- - They happy-= we arrange accreditation- they go back give to Iran Gov- takes ten days.
But Iran isn’t the easiest . Here is one for China
Quote everything by the container (20 ft or 25MT/container)
Monthly volume 15 to 20 containers to HK
TBC
Posted by Kerryanne, Friday, 29 July 2011 1:00:19 AM
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1. Beef Shin (Boneless): 3/Month
2. Beef Brisket : 3/Month
3. Leg Tendon: 3/Month
4. Beef Stir Fry strip (Whole/uncut)#11 Beef others: 3/Month
5. Beef Tenderloin #5 All 3 types: 6/Month The first order is going to HK, Port Victoria. We have 12 other countries.
Ok here is one of mine Its for Dubi.
We have previously purchased through a middle man however this has proved costly and the supply has been sporadic. I am interested in your idea all cuts of Beef, Lamb, Veal, Chicken and Turkey. Our current usage is significant for example

Chicken breast -- 48,500 KG per month
Chicken Leg Quarter – 11,000 KG per month
Turkey Breast – 6,000 KG per month
Mutton Back Strap – 2,000 KG per month
Boneless Mutton Leg – 9,000 KG per month
Beef Eye Round – 6,500 KG per month
Beef Tenderloin – 6,000 KG Per month

We wish to take the product frozen and can take by 20ft container. If you think this is something you may be able to assist me with I would very much like to talk with you.

Take care

So Yabby, We* introduce *buyers to *growers- from there they invest in *plants.

For the bit on room i have here Yabby, I will do my best. Yes the Ausmeat course is painful and not only that you can get caught.

We arrange accreditation's and the importers usually have both licenses.If not they send one or 2 of their own to do the course in Melbourne. No need for farmers to do it- if they wanted to we would help anyway.

All we need is farmers and local knowledge- best place t build.
We cant mix halal accreditation's- so all orders MUST come from same plant all big orders.

AFIS handles accreditation with visiting country. All farmers have to do is be farmers- NO middle man to pay so more & for u.
Slaughter WA export whole carcass.
Posted by Kerryanne, Friday, 29 July 2011 1:06:46 AM
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How do you temporarily stun cattle? The spinal cord of a bullock could be 8 or 10 inches below the surface, The severance of the spinal chord has been done in cases where the animal was unable to be shot with a stun gun, because of the thickness of the skull. The severance of the spinal chord is carried out with a large and heavy cleaver.
Stun gun cartridges are of varying explosive value, Black for large animals, and red for lighter animals.
Posted by a597, Friday, 29 July 2011 11:59:02 AM
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Come on Gertrude, get real! I've seen all the so called interent
meat trading sites, where every middleman on earth is trying to
make a few shillings with big dreams. It nearly all turns to
dust in the real world.

Your notion of buyers doing the Ausmeat courses is laughable.
Half of these people hardly speak English. To be Ausmeat
accredited, at least two from each company would have to do
the course and pass the test. The course takes a week and
costs around 2300.00 per person plus annual fees. No sensible
buyer would bother, when they can walk into any major exporters
office and buy container loads of meat as they please.

But dream on dear, it keeps you off the streets :)
Posted by Yabby, Friday, 29 July 2011 3:46:28 PM
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