*These feed lots just like live exports are costing each household about $880.00 a year in taxes*

That is complete rubbish, Gertrude. Stop telling porkies.

Yabby,

Gertrude isn’t telling porkies. Live exports+ overseas feed lots *are funded by the Australian public.As well its costing an estimated 250.000 jobs yep! Leave that aside and let’s move on.

I see you have stopped arguing with me about the fact Indonesia- told us in March 2010 they were cutting off in 2014.
No doubt you checked it out and found out it was true.
So let’s leave that too.

Moving on and I ask you to think:

The Bill before parliament to Ban it reads to be phased out in* 3 years right?

Think: Yabby before you jump on the key board.

What a big fat coincidence.

The question here is- did any persons conspire to hit at a particular time? Was vital evidence concealed. Well yes imop of course BUT Senators?

The question we have got here imop is whether or not certain Senators held back door meetings with AA or others. That WASN'T their call if it happened. The info should have been passed onto everybody especially graziers and industry.I dont believe it was.

Imop what should”” have happened is Government Graziers, industry & yes Animal Welfare should have been working together since 2010.

It should have been passed onto public MLA Graziers. That was *vital info & if it was purposely withheld its serious.

IMOP this has been planned since March 2010.

Result – massive upset to graziers + irresponsible damage to any real animal welfare orgs. Upset public. An inquiry. LOST TIME.

imop that info was given to AA possibly through Bartlett or ALP back benchers- greens..
TBC

Now- had it been passed onto the industry THEN- instead of turned into a game of backroom politics things would be different.

We would of all been working together, industry government, animal welfare . Instead what we see its a game of possibly fund raising + egos , self promotion.

As far as I am concerned this is nothing more than politics and that’s NOT what Animal Welfare is *supposed to be about.

Who do they think they are- How dare they. Now I am the first to jump on cruelty etc- but how can we get anywhere while Animal Welfare is headed in this fashion!
Think:

*Gertrude isn’t telling porkies*

Yes you are Gertrude and your claim was totally ridiculous. Now
you throw in a major conspiracy theory, which is exactly that.

Fact is that the Govt matches grower funding for R&D, most of which
is spent on research programmes at Australian universities and
similar institutions. Yes, they once gave 1 milion $ to fund some
knock boxes. Your contribution there would be around 5c. So
stop telling porkies about 880$ per family.

If you want to stop live exports, so go and buy the cattle and
slaughter them here. Its a free world.

Yabby

Ok it was all just a big coincidence.

I cant be bothered.

I am sure as hell not going so far to post more here.

Re funding- play your silly games- break it up if you wish.

Bottom line it still adds up to millions of tax payers dollars which should be spent in Australia.

Maybe it will all come out at the inquiry- maybe not. Wait & see.

Your about as smart as MLA.

Grateful,
http://www.azhar.jp/info/halal-eng/halal5.html
Here is the Islamic Slaughtering Argument that your probably looking for.

Its quite lengthy so i will copy here the relevant part your probably after-

“And eat not of that where on ALLAH’s name has not been mentioned for verily it is abomination.

( Surah Anam 6/121)

Then, by a very, very sharp knife (which should be kept like a surgeon’s knife in sharpness and cleanliness, as previously stated by DR Ghulam Khan (UFAW, 1971), a Deep swift cut done instantaneously and quickly to the blood vessels of the neck (the two caroid arteries which carry blood to the brain and head, the two jugular veins which bring blood from the brain back to the heart), the trachea (windpipe) and the oesophagus (gullet), but the central nervous system (the spinal cord) should be kept safe and intact (not cut).

Grateful- This is very old but the difference is we know if the spinal cord is NOT cut the animals feels stress and pain because thats the part that sends that signal.

Theirs reads=

## but the central nervous system (the spinal cord) should be kept safe and intact (not cut).##

The AVA which is the Australian Veterinary Association and RSPCA support pre stunning and to CUT the spinal cord for the reasons I explained.

Hope that helps.

salaams