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Halal Slaughter: What Evidence?

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*Re funding- play your silly games- break it up if you wish.*

No silly claims Gertrude, but at least I have a basic understanding
of how MLA operates and what its charter is. How funding is split
etc. If you want to have a go at the organisation, at least take
the trouble to educate yourself abut what they do and why.

Spurious and innacurate claims will win you no brownie points,
apart from those ignorant of the facts.

*As well its costing an estimated 250.000 jobs yep!*

Claims like that are complete rubbish. You really deserve the
title of a hysterical housewife who simply does not understand
the industry.
Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 3:31:12 PM
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Yabby

Keep your eye on the inquiry for information and you might learn something!

**I hear too the Ministers office Ludwig advised there were NO meetings taking place taking place in regards to Ritual Slaughter.**

That position I believe has been constant for months + provided in writing. What does this look like =

http://www.abc.net.au/rural/news/content/201107/s3271781.htm

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/agriculture-minister-demands-mandatory-stunning-for-cattle/story-e6frea6u-1226094187730

Even you should be able to gasp the seriousness of that.

Yes I know you get your info through MLA and that is your problem.

Not only yours but the Ministers too. Would be the LAST place i would seek information from. Only a fool would listen to anything they said. Well it looks like the Government has been caught with it pants down.

As for Indonesia like i said the Indonesia government were forced by the poor people ( farmers) to stop live exports because it was sending them bankrupt.
So all your Industry and MLA dribble is just that.

Fools and their money soon part & I hope you have invested heavily.
btw those figures have been proven o the jobs- like i said WATCH the inquiry. I cant be bothered with your trivial rubbish.

I am more interested to provide alternative markets for farmers.
Posted by Kerryanne, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 4:08:48 PM
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*btw those figures have been proven o the jobs*

No Gertrude, those figures have not been proven. They are just wah wah.

The MLA charter was set up long before Ludwig came along. If you
don't understand it or know about it, well stick to house work or
bother to inform yourself. Indeed Ludwig is the new boy on the block
and does not really know much about agriculture. Northern pastoralists
were a bit shocked after meeting him. But it is those pastoralists
who will decide the future of their industry, not some Gold Coast
housewife.
Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 5:52:08 PM
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Yabby

Firstly they are not my figures. Which is why I asked you to watch the inquiry.
Those are the findings of a well respected research source. Its running collective information over 3 year periods.
Not on just live exports but many issues.

*The MLA charter was set up long before Ludwig came along*
Again tbo it makes zip difference to me whom was supposed the inform whom.
He possible victim of MLA – Or MLA a victim of sloppy government work.

The entire system is hopeless and the result is obviously a disaster.

* Northern pastoralists were a bit shocked *

How would you know that Yabby? Did MLA send out another media release.?
You say you’re a farmer.-You’re the first farmer I have met that sits on OLO in daylight hours – all day.

If you’re a farmer you should be on Just Grounds with the rest of them.
So why don’t you find a Google search and head off there. Say G,day to Rob Moore for me.
http://justgroundsonline.com/main/index/

Actually, I do have a farm .I director, President within the area we have discussed.
I live by my own standards. I assure you I am not a housewife.
Its something I committed to when I was about five I reckon.
To spend my life improving animal welfare. Not that there is anything wrong with house wives. It just not my thing.
I gave you the heads up- on the other thread. It wasn’t anti graziers either.
If you’re not bright enough to pick up on the evidence i dumped in that thread that’s your problem- not mine.
Go away and play Mr know it all with the others.
Because just between you and me – your cover as being well informed it blown.( not that you ever fooled me.
You know nothing- other than what you read which is mostly MLA bull.
Just like the Minister.
Posted by Kerryanne, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 8:27:31 PM
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*Those are the findings of a well respected research source.*

So you claim. But anyone who knows about the meat industry knows that
they are bull. Go on prove me wrong. Show me where they came up
with those figures and how they calculated them. I will show you
where they are bull, so will others who understand the industry.

* The entire system is hopeless and the result is obviously a disaster*

Again its all black and white, all emotion with you. No reasoning
at all. Fact is that MLA have done some very good work in marketing
lamb for instance. In promoting beef in various markets for instance.
In r&d alot of automation work in abattoirs for instance. In funding
of CRCs into meat quality and their findings for instance. Those
findings have been invaluable for the future of the industry. You
seemingly don't know a thing about all those. If you were a farmer,
you would be an MLA levy payer, you could have your say. But
you don't even understand how that works.

I am all for informed criticism, but it helps if people at least
understand their subject. Just waving your arms in hysteria, is
not going to do it, I am afraid.

The fact that pastoralists were shocked by Ludwig was on the rural
news. They were interviewed. You might not hear that on the Gold Coast.

What you are pushing for is not animal welfare, but more like a
cross between a dreamy animal rights and animal liberation.
Agriculture is concerned with animal welfare, there is a difference
Posted by Yabby, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 8:51:11 PM
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Wait and read it online in the inquiry. It was sent to me & I have nothing to do with it. You will see it soon enough and can argue it with the research team if you wish to. That is your right.

*Again its all black and white, all emotion with you.*
I have no emotion and care neither way who is the blame.
I am angry however for the farmers and others that they were not warned in 2010..

Now of course we have a situation of graziers having to find alternative markets for thousands of their cattle with little notice.

Only up to 50 000 head of cattle will be able to going. Although I don’t approve live exports I am furious! As the graziers should be this was kept from them since 2010

He says graziers should make the decision soon says MLA. Decide what? My interest is to find alternative markets pre stun and send in a box-.

*but it helps if people at least understand their subject. Just waving your arms in hysteria, *

Yabby , my sentiments exactly ! The graziers of course are also their OWN worst enemy. Well actually , some are- some not.

Once again Yabby its those with vetted interests- we were asked to post on just grounds- As soon as alternatives were suggested and a few graziers asked – yes pls we would like to meet buyers interested to erect plants- bingo! Banned from the site.

*Go figure* & before you say it- NO it wasn’t me – it was a man with the contacts with Muslim buyers.

Ok Yabby- hes a little TEST

Tell me right now what is happening in Australia atm about building new abattoirs?

You won’t find it on googles so don’t bother looking. Let’s see how much you really know about the industry ?

I am waiting—

No doubt just like always when you cant answer the question you leave the thread.

Prove me wrong- go on take a guess where , if , what state is

something happening—if at all.?
Posted by Kerryanne, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 9:35:24 PM
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