Dear Grateful- good morning. I will leave a few more standards for you to appraise on your return.

salaams

Halal Certification Authority - Australia

PRESS RELEASE
This Authority hereby condemns Majlis Ulama Indonesia (MUI) in the name of Islam for the heinous, disgusting and un-Islamic treatment meted to animals in slaughter houses under its watch.
This Authority has come to the conclusion that Handlers and Slaughtermen in Indonesia have no idea about Islamic rules on animal welfare and treatment. Also the Slaughtermen seen on the ABC report of 30/05/11 seem to either be oblivious about the rules of Halal slaughter or choose to ignore them.
This Authority would like to remind MUI that the following acts are forbidden in Islam:
• Hitting animals on the face or head
• Torturing animals with water or other means
• Dragging animals on concrete floors
• Slashing tendons or breaking tails while animals are 
•Poking, gouging or kicking animals
• Letting one animal see another being slaughtered
• Letting animals see blood
• Slaughtering animals using sawing action
• Using a blunt or inadequate knife to slaughter animals
Animals in Australia are temporarily immobilised (stunned) prior to Halal slaughter with the knowledge and acceptance of all religious as well as governments in importing Muslim countries including Indonesia. Therefore Indonesia is strongly advised to stop the hypocrisy and copy Australia.
MUI Executives should stop gallivanting around the world to primarily enrich themselves and to extract funds from Western Halal Certifiers for their organization. Instead they should stay home to put their own house in order.
For and on behalf of
Halal Certification Authority Australia
Mohamed El-Mouelhy
Chairman
Sydne

See Gertrude, you are so out of touch with the industry, that you
don't even understand its history. Plants did not close because
of live exports, they closed because they could no longer make
a profit. Markets changed. We lost our British market, when Britain
joined the EU. It was where most of our beef had gone. At the same
time the meat workers were one of the most militant unions in
Australia. Eventually they were taken to court and had to pay
millions. But employers had had a gutful. Alot of plants further
south closed because of industry rationalisation and automation.
Mum and dad businesses replaced by large modern plants, which
lower per unit labour costs. Given that much of our meat is sold
in the third world, it has to be at a price which they can actually
afford to buy. You clearly never had to shoot stock because meatworks
could not find a market for the stuff.

No thousands demonstrated about live exports either. It was basically
a fizz, nation wide. Most demonstrators who turned up in Perth were
farmers, insisting on their right to export live. Including Polly
Trefort, who knows more about this industry then you could ever
dream of. He is part of it, you are not.

Yes you don't work with other animal activist groups, because they
seemingly won't work with you. That does not change the fact that
you are a closet vegie who thinks that eating animals in uncivilised.
You have admitted it yourself. So you are hardly taking an objective
view of animal welfare.

Local meatworks never looked for skilled workers. They will train
them. They looked for people who were not taking drugs as there are
OHS issues if they do. They also need to turn up for work every day,
not just on days when it suits them. They had no takers.

Yabby,

Your such a little pest. Why don’t you go off and play cowboys and Indians or take up knitting. Strangely enough I can picture you doing that rather well. ( unlike somethings)

Yes, the meat unions were tough & let’s face it- behind that was ALP verses LIB.The poor animals paid the price again & still are. Unions and live exports both played a part.

*A fizz, nationwide.*

Well Yabby- in case, given the amount is now restricted to only 50 thousand- I would hate to see it go off with a bang:)
( wouldn’t you)?& Its not over yet.

What’s sad is that you have no shame concern for animals being flocked to death for over and hour. That you have no concern what its doing to the poor Indonesian farmers- who demanded live imports were ceased because its sending them bankrupt. You and I know however thats only a side show. The Indonesians will do what they said.

*Yes you don't work with other animal activist groups, because they
seemingly won't work with you*

Yep, thats true. They have more in common with you then I.
Articulate politically correct. All the stuff that I have little time for. Just because you dont hear about them in the media- Yabby there are hundreds of thousands of people all doing their bit.
I am just but one- pretty harmless really.{-

**you are a closet vegie who thinks that eating animals in uncivilised.**

What I said was in 50 – or a 100 years’ time people wouldn’t eat meat

Of *course its uncivilised if you look 100 years backward.*

As time moves on I have EVERY intention of pushing Halal veggies i have always said that. The timing isn't right for pushing the veggie barrow. One step at a time. Mean time I am not asking much- just kill them here in the mean time.

We will as *you have always said move with the times and go with the market demands.

#Local meat works never looked for skilled workers. They will train
them. #

Good comment and agree 100

No 50 thousand Getrude, all the demos in total were a bit over
a thousand or so. The biggest demo was in Perth, 300 farmers
and 100 vegans. So your wild claims are totally out once again.
They gathered a few signatures granted, after a huge internet
campaign to do so. Anyone will sign a petition. Now they
are going to organise another demo, because the last one was
clearly a flop.

*At least until the world becomes a more civilized place & stops killing animals to eat*

That was your claim. Clearly a vegie who thinks we are uncivilised.
Fair enough, you would rather bemother them then eat them. Each
to their own. But lets just say it as it is.

Of course I'm a pest. For I know the figures and question your
many wild claims, which are full of bull.

What is interesting is that all you vegies are so focussed on the
live trade, yet wild dogs are out there ripping lambs and calves
to bits every day, right here in Australia. You do nothing to
control them. Its easier just to sit by the computer and give
farmers a hard time, as most arn't at their computers giving it
back.

Urban computer jockeys, who refuse to spend money on improving
animal welfare in the third world, we'll just make a lot of
wah wah on the internet to pass the time.

*No 50 thousand Getrude, all the demos in total were a bit over
a thousand or so.*

Yabby dear, put your glasses on. I said 50 thousand cattle not people.

50 000 head of cattle will be able to be live exported to Indonesia this year.( maybe less) still too many of course.

Its better to make decision earlier about alternatives for cattle." Pity others didn’t listen. Could have had so many markets in place b now.

Your wrong- Many years ago one hundred thousand farmers took to the steers over tax of fuel. The public turned out one hundred and twenty thousand Australia wide a month ago.


*At least until the world becomes a more civilized place & stops killing animals to eat*

Yabby, I have to move with the market. The share holders will drive it.

Look at this--
http://timeforchange.org/are-cows-cause-of-global-warming-meat-methane-CO2

According to the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO) agriculture is responsible for 18% of the total release of greenhouse gases world-wide (this is more than the whole transportation sector). Cattle-breeding is taking a major factor for these greenhouse gas emissions according to FAO. Says Henning Steinfeld, Chief of FAO's Livestock Information and Policy Branch and senior author of the report: "Livestock are one of the most significant contributors to today's most serious environmental problems. Urgent action is required to remedy the situation."

I am realistic Yabby, & know the global warming debate will only heat up over the years.( No pun intended)

Unlike MLA & Industry we make sure we have other markets. Yes, I feel sure in time there will be a higher demand for added agriculture products for growers to go with.

Its all part of a good companies responsibly to move with the times. The industry supply & demand will dictate not us.


*wah wah on the internet to pass the time*

Yes its sad to see you so bored Yabby- what about that knitting I suggested for you?

*The public turned out one hundred and twenty thousand Australia wide a month ago.*

More porkies from Gertrude. The demos were a complete fizz. No wonder
they are trying so hard to organise another one on the 14th. They
need credibility, for they certainly don't have numbers.

*I have to move with the market.*

The point had nothing to do with the market, but your role as a
closet vegie. Mind you, I have yet to see you sell a single kg
of meat. You need Ausmeat accreditation for that.

FAO figures apply to intensive farming, not to Australian livestock.
If our cattle did not eat the grass, wildfires would dominate the
landscape each summer. The cities would choke on it.

But keep dreaming Gertrude.