Sad News

I am sorry to inform those who knew him Tom Hannan the X Federal Leader of AMIEU passed away in NSW 4 weeks ago.

Tom was an advisor and chaired many HKM meetings to Government.

He was a legend in his own right never once wore a suit in 35 years to address Ministers.

A friend a rough diamond with a quick sense of humour, a friend and loved by everybody.

You will be missed old mate .

Travel well Tom

(On that sad note I bid all goodnight.)

Kerryanne

Sheesh Belly & Yabby

I have made valid and rational suggestions. Yes, I would like an end to live export, however, the pragmatist in me knows that this is unlikely to happen in the foreseeable.

There is nothing ignorant or bleeding heart about furthering humane slaughtering practices. Nor is it ignorant to re-open the northern abattoirs. And training overseas people in humane handling of food stock? Is not only good for animals but good for business.

I try to aim for win/win. You guys are doing neither, except remaining stuck with your wheels spinning and running short on fuel.

*You guys are doing neither*

Ammonite, we actually analysed the problem, rather then just come
out with a few feelgood statements. If I gave you a knife and
piece of rope, your attempts at humane slaughter might not
work too well. Perhaps 500 kg of steer might just flatten you
as well. In fact most the things shown in the video over which
people were concerned, would fall away with proper equipment.
So why not provide the proper equipment

*Ammonite, we actually analysed the problem,*

Yabby,

Ammonite has said nothing other than this has to be fixed together with many housewives. Let me assure you without the housewives this country would run at all. It is quite reasonable to expect any decent humane being - male or female- involved in the industry - or not" to speak out about such cruelty. This entire thing lays at the feet of all our Governments. We have seen it before and whats been done to fix it - nothing.
MLA have been derelict and the Government Ministers and advisers are just ploys with no understanding of the Halal Industry. If you think the Muslim People are not upset by those cruel stupid retraining boxes they put in you would be WRONG country girl.
Just for you Ammonite i will share this much. As we speak HKM has arranged to fly a respected in with together with other officials to sort this mess out and yes Ammonite they will be pre stunned. Malaysia is our answer - its as simple as that with a lot of help for Indonesia too . The Government needs to put some funds on the table to make this possible. MLA need to be closed in that area anyway. Brad whom I spoke with at length this morning wants MLA gone So do we because they ARE the problem.

Country girl, You do Scott Braithwaite no favors being bring him into this- or the industry for that matter.

To their great credit AA took him to court or the company years ago
to which I say on behalf of Muslims Australia in that matter at least.
Well done Animals Australia because the Koran says we must be kind to animals and this is not Halal!

Cruelty does not sit well with Australian Muslims

The counter argument re Scotts letter country-girl- which i didnt post before- but as you seem to think he has the answers- your backing the wrong horse.
http://www.opiniononlineforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=507

Sorry typo error- that was HKM are flying in a respected Dr with others - and NO I am not going to post names up here. The last thing they need is to be bombarded with calls.

I can tell you this much though after sorting out the four hundred thousand head of cattle in limbo and thats after Indonesia now do the over hundred thousand the focus will be from HKM to re- open more plants here. It will take time but we are only kidding ourselves if we think live exports can be stopped over night.
The focus must now be to set our friends up in Indonesia for *proper pre stunned accreditation- but with all the Islands in mind there- its got to be Malaysia as the world Halal hub long term
One day much more will be done right here in Australia.

That will be organized by the Muslims themselves through their tradings and accreditation systems and HKM has a long road ahead.
mean time we have to help the animals and farmers.
Without looking after Aussie farmers this country is going down the tube.
There are some good farmers out there upset about how their animals are treated who just want a fair go.
Lets give them one.

The are the salt of this nation.

For chrissakes Yabby. Strawman argument much?

My slaughtering abilities remain with shooting and dressing rabbits.

I leave mass scale slaughter to the experts and so should you, having demonstrated you understand very little of humane practices.