Thanks again for your response, Yabby. I don't have the background knowledge on our current state ag minister which you have, but [for other reasons] I do regard him as an embarrassment to our state Premier and govt and not fit to hold a ministerial portfolio.

With all the potential problems which Alan Carpenter has had to rush back to, I wouldn't want to try and do anything immediately to distract him from sorting out some of the incredibly stupid people in his own ranks. But I would be very interested in putting a proposal to Greens leader in the WA Senate Giz Watson in regard to practical steps to reduce our dependance on the live export trade.

I would certainly appreciate it if you could help me in putting a suitable proposal together. If you would do this, then I would undertake to run any proposal past you before submitting it to Giz, to avoid any possibility of inadvertently misrepresenting anything which you may have suggested.

If you would like to co-operate with me on this, then I'll be happy to post my email address.

Rex, your proposal makes far more sense then waving placards on
wharves, just wanting to shut everything down, with farmers
being the losers. My email is bonobo@westnet.com.au

paleif, It is becoming less clear what youir post is about. On one hand you state "Kevin Rudd, will not ban live exports if elected". I fail to see how this could be anything other than the obvious. Yet you say it is not about live exports.
Your second point, that you maintain is the purpose of your thread, is that you informed the labor party of the fact that AWB, through Landmark, has links to live exports. And that Labor conspired to cover up the secret Landmark purchase by AWB that you felt you blew wide open.
Two distinct problems with your arguement: Landmark deal was no secret. The AWB enquiry was about wheat.
Why on earth would anyone feel the need to link AWB to live exports unless their express wish was to discredit the live export industry. It would be pointless to discredit AWB further, what are the public going to do stop buying wheat?

Kevin Rudd is heading for the hills no not running away from the people against everything he is bound for the hills of the ACT and for a long stay.
Keven has a plan for Australia and an awareness you just can not please some people.
Live sheep will travel in ships or planes always, some country's need to kill their own because of religious belief.
Some would not some could not buy chilled meat.
Australia's farmers are not my enemy's and should not have pests telling half truths about them.
Nope not in the National party Angus and Brangus, and not named after a breed of cattle just country Labor on a mission fair go for our drought stricken sheep and farmers .
99% gee I laughed and laughed all weekend ,how much more is untrue? you have to ask the question.

Kevin has a plan i would like to see that. We labor has its next conference he will be told the plan, policies anyone.

Be an obedient person and keep sprouting your spin, then report back to your master the labor party.

Media Release

24 February 2006
Australian Muslims Are Against Animal Cruelty

The President of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils, Dr. Ameer Ali
today called on the Australian media not to act irresponsible in misinforming the
Australian public about the real reasons for live exports.

Dr. Ameer Ali said that Muslims are primarily concerned to ensure that the animal is slaughtered in accordance with the Islamic Shariah, and that can be done in Australia under the Australian Government supervised Muslim Slaughter Program (AGSMS) and we want the Australian public to know that we do not agree to animal cruelty.

He further said that Muslims in the Middle Eastern countries readily accept
Frozen and chilled lamb and mutton from Australia, once it is Halal certified
under the program. Last year Australian lamb meat exports to the Middle East was up 36% to a record of 14,052 tonnes, and Australian mutton meat export to the middle East was up 24% in the same period to 36,051 Tonnes (ref. Farmonline News 1 Feb 2006). This represents the equivalent of more than 2 million sheep which were slaughtered in Australia for Middle Eastern Muslim customers

Dr. Ali said that the Australian Muslims does not support the cruel treatment of animals prior to slaughter, that has been documented in Egypt as the Qur`an dictates that animals should be treated with kindness.

Dr. Ameer Ali, President
Dr. Munir Hussain, Chairman, Halal Committee