Wendy its not 50% whatever. Its 50% of money spent here in universities and research institutions etc, so benefits all
Aussies, right here in Australia.

You seem so obsessed with this topic, that you refuse
to look at the big picture. There is actually a push on
by ME Govts, to have more and more livestock slaughtered
in abattoirs, rather then backyard butchering. That makes
perfect sense too. All that blood and guts lying around
cities and towns is rather messy.

Just a few weeks ago, there was an article in a hobby farmer
magazine, telling Aussie hobby farmers how to cut a sheep's
throat and butcher it for themselves. Just because there
are no AA video cameras diligently observing all this, as
they do in the Middle East, so you really think things
are so different right here? Think again.

I remind you of the new standards that apply to live sheep
ships. If live animals were thrown overboard, the operators
would lose their license immediately and be out of business.

But you won't look at that big picture, ok whatever, thats
your problem.

Fact is NOBODY has proposed a workable alternative. As we
saw in the last drought, the moment supply increased,
the market collapsed and farmers were left to give their
livestock away, so lacked resources to buy feed for their
remaining stock. The live trade really did come to the
rescue of many farmers and sheep

Blind obedience to my master tapp? I have no master is the party you vote for your master?
Blind fighting for a one sided view is wasteful and childlike.
This issue remains one of welfare.
Of the sheep, the farmers, Australian exports and trade balance.
And for some in this thread this fight has to be a defense of reality.
he fate of these sheep if the small minority who do not value truth is to rule is a wasteful death in the paddock.
Again few could ague country Labor is closer to farmers needs than the defunct national party who should change its name to miners party soon.

Blind obedience
lets see due to labor NSW will end up in recession why blind obedience.
Newcastle is starting to wake up that just because they always have doesnt mean they have too.

Blind obedience
I see more here about labor and liberal than the other partys, why

When people decide that there are more than liberal and labor then their monopoly will be gone but due to the smaller parties already in bed with the big boys well what hope is there.

So me i vote for independance and that is what The Australian Peoples Party is about.

When people decide enough is enough instead of oh we have to vote labor or liberal no you dont.

Its about choice and that is the Truth and my Word.

A bit of a nudge away from the thread but it demands an answer.
Within Australia's two party preferred party's we have room for every one.
I feel threatened to see our upper houses finding more small party's small views no understanding of the wants and wishes of most Australians.
This thread is evidence for my case.
Farmers are not the enemy's of average Aussies , they bleed they get sick , and they help this country stay afloat.
Few are looking at his issue from their point of view and even from the sheep's viewpoint.
Some constantly refer to the possibility of more jobs killing sheep here, yet in truth not one job would come from an end to exports.
Some will not eat food we kill some could not pay for food we kill,
The issue is best served by better travel conditions not dream time insults to the real world.

Oh Yabbs
You really are a lot of fun and lets face it without you we would not have been able to keep the other side alive.- So thanks. We have been away and leaving again.\ Outback mustering- yeh the city chicks terrible aint it.
I look forward to reading your comments on our return
Mean time NOBODY from PALE is disagreeing with you.
Yeh sure the live export is saving the farmers. Thats the way it was meant to be seen by the farmers. AND Yes the Animal Libbers are making it worse by picking on farmers.
Sure We agree.
So lets get the right info out there so we can push for more plants in Australia.
Come on Yabby this bloke up here for get twelve bucks for his goat which is then sold on to the live export trade for 72 isnt get much of a go now is he?
The Muslims are not getting a fair deal either. the dam goats sure as hell not.
When the farners and the Animal Libber start putting the blame where it is- vaile Trade push and Downers and wen we get some real opposition then we can all be happy.
See you when I return and by a good boy- if you can
or You can always come mustering with us and show us how its done[smile]
Talk about subs later Mmm Look forward to it

"Come on Yabby this bloke up here for get twelve bucks for his goat which is then sold on to the live export trade for 72 isnt get much of a go now is he"

Clearly your bloke was done like a dinner by a trader. If he was
a WA sheep farmer, live exporters would have offered him 60$,
compared to 10-15$ by local processors. I know of exactly one
processor who thinks that WA farmers should obtain a better return
for their livestock. All the rest seem to collude to buy their
animals as cheaply as possible, bugger the farmers.

I judge people by what they do, not what they say. It cannot be
denied that live exporters have looked after farmers, local processors have largely tried to screw them.

So you are off mustering. I am sure that the outback can handle
a few tourists. Remember, there might not be a plug for the
hairdryer :)