Yabby

Right Your on.

You say you can get a few farmers together then please!do it.

The farmers can sit and talk direct with Malaysian delegates and name their own price.

AFIC leaders would be to introduce them to Australia.

The farmers can put up whatever they like at the meeting.

Any farmer or person happy with an arrangement to open more plants will have his chance to demand what they demand.

We will take on the red tape and staff problem with the Government.

You Yabby -You might just get a handsome agents fee for introductions.

To add a bonus and no doubt make your day- I wont even attend.

Hows that for a deal.

The only person I would like to see there of a political nature might be Simon Crean. 'I said Might'.

Wendy, I don't want any fees lol. I am simply telling you
the reality of the situation here, in West Australia,
as farmers see it. This year for instance, they supplied
around 1 million Hajj lambs, mostly merinos, 35kg
liveweight, which were slaughtered in abattoirs in
Mecca and Medina. They sold them for 60 bucks.
I doubt it any local processor would offer 20 bucks for
those lambs, that includes Fletcher.

If the Malaysians want to build a plant here, then the
State Govt should facilitate it for them. Thats what
I have been calling for : for the State to appoint
a facilitator for the meat industry, given the clear
evidence that livestock values in WA are well behind
those of the Eastern States.

But it won't happen whilst Kim Chance is Minister for
Ag. He fought the help given to Fletcher all the way,
when he was in opposition.
His ego would be damaged, if he was to change tune
now. Thats the problem as I see it. Meantime so
many Ministers are being fired from the Govt over the
Burke affair, that there is really nobody left to replace
him, despite his saying he'd like to quit. So its a messy
story in WA, when it comes to politics.

Yabby

Thank you for your honest reply. Now I will be just as honest although I wish I didnt have to post it on a public forum.

Yes they will meet with The Government. It doesnt matter who gets in.

Now here is the thing- "only after" they meet the farmers.

They do NOT trust the Australia Government. They want to hear it from the farmers. They want to know what problems they have.

They want to meet the farmers. They do have the funds and the interest.
To be really honest with you we dont need the Government to do this.

These people are so powerful in their own right the Government will want to assist.
Now is a great time because AFIC have just elected Ikabel as President and you couldnt as for a better bloke. So those are my! intructions from the Muslims- Let us meet with the farmers first Wendy. They are afraid the Government will tell them something wrong and effect any chance they have of working with! Aussie Farmers
I have! to do it their way.- Farmers first.
I know you dont want an agents fee Yabby but you couldnt not be paid as it would be a huge insult to them.
Now 'I" cant get farmers in WA to meet with them because I DONT know anybody and! because the libbers have done so much damage all groups are seen as the enermy. You know that.
You must understand PALE is considered a rebel group [ animal killers] and outlawed by all.
I have the contacts and funds I just need to get some farmers to meet them
No big deal Yabby If they dont want to deal with them they can say so.
The bottom line with farmers IS price. I understand that and so do they.
I am just in hope a few might like to try their hand at also being part plant ownners and exporters.

If not thats ok we will just buy stock but they want Halal Vegetables farms and some of them want cosmetics etc.

Wendy, I remind you that farmers interests are represented by
two farming organisations, PGA and WAFF.

If these people really want to meet farmers, those organisations
can make it happen, both would like to see more abattoirs in
WA.

Mind you, you will first have to convince them that you
have any kind of credibility. The internet has made communication
really easy, but its also now full of snakeoil salesmen, peddling
their wares and dreams. They would be aware of that, I would
think.

But farmers are not the problem, if we look at the big picture.
The dire straights of WA politics, despite all the mineral
wealth, is what its all about, sadly, I have to say.

Yabby

For the first time I dont really know what to say to you.

If the FF had given us a fair go in the past we would be miles down the track by now.

We have without success tried to get NSWFF QFF and VFF to contact the farmers in the past.

Refused to meet us.

It would be fair to say that the Libbers have done enourmous damage and I guess they switched off before giving us a fair hearing.

Yabby for some time now I have tried to figure out if you know whats "really going' on within the fold.

Many FF Heads, Members Australia wide along with State Government and Federal Government Parliament Ministers advisors have interests in live exports so therefor conflicts of interests.

That aside Yabby I took your advise and left a message for Tim D`Arcy. I was surprised to be honest when he returned my call. We talked for a long time and yes he's personally interested.

There are some Malaysian people going down and he requested I email the others so they can I guess, discuss it - or put it to a vote.

He thought perhaps later I meet with them although I feel its the others that need to be there.

Old habits die hard Yabby and I cant help but say - Lets wait and see.

It would be absolutley fantasic IF?? WAFF arrange farmers to meet with Muslims interested to open plants BUT Maybe hes just smarter than the others.

What with the court case and all maybe he thought they would not say straight out - Not interested.

My gut feeling is this person himself was completly honest and was interested.
After saying that is still changes nothing. My people want to meet farmers first and everybody else second.

If WAFF do invite farmers for talks with delagates we will have you to be very grateful to.

Fingers crossed and thank you Yabby.

Time will tell but A 'sincere' Thanks BUT we still! want direct contact with farmers if you know a few.
Hard to trust